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For an entertaining exercise, name the third person of the Unholy Trinity.

Who is it? Mini-Me? Fat Bastard? Frau Farbissina? Or … ?

Brian Leftow on “One Person Christology” is Glenn Peoples’ latest blog post.

How can a Chalcedonian Christology avoid ending up with Christ being two people? If the divine logos (the second person of the Trinity) combined with a fully functioning human body and soul (which some people take to be the ingredients of a human being), that is surely two people and not one, right?

Commenter Nathan thinks it would be an entertaining exercise “to try and define Logos and Human as classes, and then try and bring them together to get incarnate Jesus.” He adds, “but ultimately it won’t work.”

Class, superclass, subclass, interface, implementation, instantiation, inheritance—these are all concepts in object-oriented programming (OOP). Object-oriented programming is a programming paradigm that represents things in the real world as objects with attributes (“properties”) and abilities (“methods”). In software development, object-oriented programming is the one true way. But in theology?

The theology question of the day is not

How can God be three persons?

but the closely related

How can the Incarnate Christ be only one?

By implementing the Human interface, that’s how! Not sure if serious or trolling? I’m serious. I think everything is software.

(Incoming! Genetic fallacy! “When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail,” you say. “You’re a progr(h)ammer, Richard, so *of course* everything looks like software to you!” Nice try but no chocolate fish. Thales was not a tap.)

I’ll try to elaborate. But there’s a problem. Whereas the procedural paradigm is intuitive, the object-oriented paradigm is counter-intuitive. I started out in the procedural paradigm. Next stop, bitter experience. That’s when I made the paradigm shift. But it wasn’t easy explaining the object-oriented paradigm to myself then, and it won’t be easy explaining it to you now. That’s the problem. But I’ll try to elaborate.

I don’t always determine the meaning of a word by looking at its etymology, but when I do I look at the etymology of the word ‘logic’. The word ‘logic’ derives from the Greek λόγος or Logos, which has no exact translation but means, roughly, “reason, idea, word”. But Logos is the second person of the Trinity. Christ is Logos.

God is the author of the logic of the world, and his son is the expression of this logic.

So says philospher Nicholas F. Gier. Now, what is software but an expression of logic? Think about it.

In the beginning was the Code, and the Code was with God, and the Code was God.

Controversial? Heretical? Or just plain bat-shit crazy? No more so than the Logos Christology of the Gospel of John is any of those things.

A brain (and the body housing it) and a mind (the software running on it) are what constitutes a human person. Christ Incarnate was a human person. He was simultaneously the second person of the Trinity. How come he was not two persons, but just one? Simple. He was running different software. You and I instantiate the class DomesticatedPrimate. Christ Incarnate instantiated the class Logos. Christ is the class Logos. He instantiated himself.

An interface is an abstract class that defines a set of abstract methods. The Human interface is an abstract class that defines what it is to be human in terms of distinctively human attributes and distinctively human abilities. The classes DomesticatedPrimate and Logos have this in common. They both implement the Human interface.

That’s my destructive heresy for today. I’m not teaching it, mind. Just putting it out there.

OOP or Oops!? Be sure to let me know in the comments.

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Onya DotCom! He does Kiwi’s a great service by Suing our Corrupt Government for $6 million.

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No doubt Dotcoms claim of $6m will cause plenty of whinging… Good!!!!
I think it’s Nobel of Dotcom to pledge any $$$ he receives to Charity (less expenses) from his Law suit against the criminal activities of the GCSB, The Police, and PM John Key… yet even if he pocketed it all…. I would still Salute him for the righteousness of his claims…even though as a taxpayer… I am footing the bill… not John Key.
I say this because We are responsible for the arseholes we elect. (When I say *We*… I mean *you* Chumps who voted National… and you chumps who did not vote National but still support the Anti-libertarian status quo!)
I say this because such gross abuses of power… against any Human being…. whether Citizen, Resident, or visitor… cannot justly be without recompense, and so by hitting JK… and his Goons… and his Tax slaves hard… Dotcom serves up a reality pill which… unless the sheep are too dopey to apprehend…. ought to send shock waves through the corridors of power!
The hurting Sheeple… The Tax slaves who must foot the bill…. ought to be pissed enough about it…. not at the victim… Dotcom…. but at the Corrupt Bastards in power who perpetrated this crime against Dotcom to square a secret deal John Key had made with Hollywood for the sake of getting the Hobbit filmed in New Zealand.
The Tax slaves ought to demand *Heads to Roll* for such an injustice and financial screw up… In the GCSB…. IN the Police…. and most importantly *in the Beehive*
John Key must be forced to resign.
It was his office which authorised this Politically motivated crime!
If New Zealanders fail to rise up …. they will feul the Arseholes into thinking they can do whatever they like…. without fear of consequences from the Sheeple.
*By Suing John Key and Co…. Dotcom is working to protect all our rights from such criminal activities in the future!*

Now I am not saying that Punishing John Key and National means voting for that other bunch of a complete Dooshbags… Labour…Greens… Maori…. etc!!!
It’s time for New Zealanders to vote for a new party of principle…. one that respects Equality, Liberty, and Justice.
Tim Wikiriwhi.

>>>>Dotcom set to claim $6m<<<< Read more... >>>>The GCSB BILL… Arabs (and Maori Radicals) with knives at the foot of the bed!

>>>> Filthy Bastards: “It was an Accident”. Kim Dotcom Raid. <<<<

A star you can trust

Big props to Grant Hall of the Star Trust. A formal statement will be made by the Star Trust on this issue by the end of the week.

I think what Grant says, on behalf of the industry, is good enough. It’s honest. And it’s better than we had any right to expect. Not good enough? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

But problems remain.

The Star Trust should never have been put in a position where its spokesman had to make such a statement. That no animal testing shall be required should have been written explicitly into the Psychoactive Substances Act. It’s not too late to leave animals out altogether. Be on the march next Tuesday 30 July.

The Star Trust is funded by private contributions from individuals and industry members who support drug policy reform, but operates as an independent entity being audited and overseen by a Board of Trustees. This allows us to represent the industry and to monitor a voluntary code of conduct for responsible operators.

A voluntary code of conduct for responsible operators? I’m all in favour of industry self-regulation and the good work of the Star Trust. But what about the irresponsible operators? The people who not so long ago were happy selling K2 to children via local dairies? They didn’t follow a voluntary code of conduct then. They won’t follow one now.

Die Like a Beagle

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Ask the experimenters why they experiment on animals, and the answer is:
“Because the animals are like us.”

Ask the experimenters why it is morally OK to experiment on animals, and the answer is:
“Because the animals are not like us.”

Animal experimentation rests on a logical contradiction.

— Charles R. Magel

Party pills testing will mean dogs have to die. That was the headline when what is now the Psychoactive Substances Act made its first splash in the Parliamentary pan. Thanks to public protest and some hard work by the Greens and a few like-minded Labour MPs there are now tight restrictions on the use of animal testing in the legislation. I think the Act now states that where there are alternatives to animal tests, those alternatives must be used. But what if there are no alternatives?

The Act establishes a Psychoactive Substances Regulatory Authority within the Ministry of Health. But the Psychoactive Substances Regulations aren’t in place yet. We know that manufacturers will be required to provide “sufficient pre-clinical and clinical information to satisfy an independent expert advisory committee that the product poses no more than a low risk of harm.” But we don’t know what that information is yet. And the devil is in the details.

The bottom line is that there is still no clause in the Act that guarantees that suppliers of psychoactive substances will NOT be required to test those substances on animals. There’s been a lot of sound and fury in Parliament, signifying nothing. The Psychoactive Substances Act is still a turd. Let’s flush it.

Please join me in protest on Tuesday 30 July. That’s when Parliament’s back. In Wellington there is a march organised by HUHA. The strategy is to come out strong and show our Parliamentarians that we’re not happy the moment they return.

MARCH TO PARLIAMENT – SAY NO TO ANIMAL TESTING ON PARTY PILLS

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Vote AGAINST the Psychoactive Substances Bill

Dear MP,

Please vote AGAINST the Psychoactive Substances Bill.

Animals must not experience suffering for economic or entertainment reasons.

It is morally abhorrent to me, as it is to John Banks and all right-thinking people, “that animals will be in pain and will die all in the name of people wanting to take drugs on the weekend.”

Not in my name.

Yours sincerely,

Richard Goode
Christian libertarian (who wants to take drugs on the weekend)

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“Stoner Dog” is just an Internet meme. Let’s keep him that way!

Please email your MPs today with your message, here is a list of names and email addresses.

ACT PARTY MPs:

John Banks <john.banks@parliament.govt.nz>

(OK, so John Banks doesn’t need any convincing, but you could try to convince him it would be a good idea to legalise cannabis. He’s been known to change his mind on human rights issues before.)

GREEN PARTY MPs:

Russel Norman <russel.norman@parliament.govt.nz>
Metiria Turei <metiria.turei@parliament.govt.nz>
Steffan Browning <steffan.browning@parliament.govt.nz>
David Clendon <david.clendon@parliament.govt.nz>
Catherine Delahunty <catherine.delahunty@parliament.govt.nz>
Julie Genter <julie.genter@parliament.govt.nz>
Kennedy Graham <kennedy.graham@parliament.govt.nz>
Kevin Hague <kevin.hague@parliament.govt.nz>
Gareth Hughes <gareth.hughes@parliament.govt.nz>
Jan Logie <jan.logie@parliament.govt.nz>
Mojo Mathers <mojo.mathers@parliament.govt.nz>
Denise Roche <denise.roche@parliament.govt.nz>
Eugenie Sage <eugenie.sage@parliament.govt.nz>
Holly Walker <holly.walker@parliament.govt.nz>

INDEPENDENT MPs:

Peter Dunne <p.dunne@ministers.govt.nz>
Brendan Horan <brendan.horan@parliament.govt.nz>

LABOUR PARTY MPs:

Jacinda Ardern <jacinda.ardern@parliament.govt.nz>
Carol Beaumont <carol.beaumont@parliament.govt.nz>
David Clark <david.clark@parliament.govt.nz>
Clayton Cosgrove <clayton.cosgrove@parliament.govt.nz>
David Cunliffe <david.cunliffe@parliament.govt.nz>
Clare Curran <clare.curran@parliament.govt.nz>
Lianne Dalziel <lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz>
Ruth Dyson <ruth.dyson@parliament.govt.nz>
Kris Faafoi <kris.faafoi@parliament.govt.nz>
Darien Fenton <darien.fenton@parliament.govt.nz>
Phil Goff <phil.goff@parliament.govt.nz>
Chris Hipkins <chris.hipkins@parliament.govt.nz>
Raymond Huo <raymond.huo@parliament.govt.nz>
Shane Jones <shane.jones@parliament.govt.nz>
Annette King <annette.king@parliament.govt.nz>
Iain Lees-Galloway <iain.lees-galloway@parliament.govt.nz>
Andrew Little <andrew.little@parliament.govt.nz>
Moana Mackey <moana.mackey@parliament.govt.nz>
Nanaia Mahuta <nanaia.mahuta@parliament.govt.nz>
Trevor Mallard <trevor.mallard@parliament.govt.nz>
Sue Moroney <sue.moroney@parliament.govt.nz>
Damien Oconnor <damien.oconnor@parliament.govt.nz>
David Parker <david.parker@parliament.govt.nz>
Rajen Prasad <rajen.prasad@parliament.govt.nz>
Grant Robertson <grant.robertson@parliament.govt.nz>
Ross Robertson <ross.robertson@parliament.govt.nz>
David Shearer <david.shearer@parliament.govt.nz>
Su’a William Sio <sua.william.sio@parliament.govt.nz>
Maryan Street <maryan.street@parliament.govt.nz>
Rino Tirikatene <rino.tirikatene@parliament.govt.nz>
Phil Twyford <phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz>
Louisa Wall <louisa.wall@parliament.govt.nz>
Meka Whaitiri <meka.whaitiri@parliament.govt.nz>
Megan Woods <megan.woods@parliament.govt.nz>

MANA PARTY MP:

Hone Harawira <hone.harawira@parliament.govt.nz>

MAORI PARTY MPs:

Pita Sharples <pita.sharples@parliament.govt.nz>
Tariana Turia <tariana.turia@parliament.govt.nz>
Te Ururoa Flavell <teururoa.flavell@parliament.govt.nz>

NATIONAL PARTY MPs:

Amy Adams <amy.adams@parliament.govt.nz>
Shane Ardern <shane.ardern@parliament.govt.nz>
Chris Auchinvole <chris.auchinvole@parliament.govt.nz>
Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi <bakshi.mp@parliament.govt.nz>
Maggie Barry <maggie.barry@parliament.govt.nz>
David Bennett <david.bennett@parliament.govt.nz>
Paula Bennett <paula.bennettmp@parliament.govt.nz>
Chester Borrows <chester.borrows@parliament.govt.nz>
Simon Bridges <simon.bridges@parliament.govt.nz>
Gerry Brownlee <gerry.brownlee@parliament.govt.nz>
Cam Calder <cam.calder@parliament.govt.nz>
David Carter <david.carter@parliament.govt.nz>
Jonathan Coleman <jonathan.coleman@parliament.govt.nz>
Judith Collins <office@judithcollins.co.nz>
Jacqui Dean <jacqui.dean@parliament.govt.nz>
Bill English <bill.english@parliament.govt.nz>
Chris Finlayson <c.finlayson@parliament.govt.nz>
Craig Foss <craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz>
Paul Foster-Bell <paul.foster-bell@parliament.govt.nz>
Paul Goldsmith <paul.goldsmith@parliament.govt.nz>
Jo Goodhew <jo.goodhew@parliament.govt.nz>
Tim Groser <tim.groser@parliament.govt.nz>
Nathan Guy <nathan.guy@parliament.govt.nz>
Claudette Hauiti <claudette.hauiti@parliament.govt.nz>
John Hayes <john.hayes@parliament.govt.nz>
Phil Heatley <phil.heatley@parliament.govt.nz>
Tau Henare <tau.henare@parliament.govt.nz>
Paul Hutchison <paul.hutchison@parliament.govt.nz>
Steven Joyce <steven.joyce@parliament.govt.nz>
Nikki Kaye <nikki.kaye@parliament.govt.nz>
John Key <john.key@parliament.govt.nz>
Colin King <colin.kingmp@parliament.govt.nz>
Melissa Lee <melissa.lee@parliament.govt.nz>
Sam Lotu-Iiga <peseta.sam.lotu-iiga@parliament.govt.nz>
Tim Macindoe <tim.macindoemp@parliament.govt.nz>
Todd McClay <todd.mcclay@parliament.govt.nz>
Murray McCully <murray.mccully@parliament.govt.nz>
Ian McKelvie <ian.mckelvie@parliament.govt.nz>
Mark Mitchell <mark.mitchell@parliament.govt.nz>
Alfred Ngaro <alfred.ngaro@parliament.govt.nz>
Simon Oconnor <simon.oconnor@parliament.govt.nz>
Hekia Parata <hekia.parata@parliament.govt.nz>
Jami-Lee Ross <Jami-Lee.ross@parliament.govt.nz>
Eric Roy <eric.roy@parliament.govt.nz>
Tony Ryall <tony.ryall@parliament.govt.nz>
Mike Sabin <mike.sabin@parliament.govt.nz>
Katrina Shanks <katrina.shanks@parliament.govt.nz>
Scott Simpson <scott.simpson@parliament.govt.nz>
Nick Smith <nick.smith@parliament.govt.nz>
Lindsay Tisch <lindsay.tisch@parliament.govt.nz>
Anne Tolley <anne.tolley@parliament.govt.nz>
Chris Tremain <chris.tremain@parliament.govt.nz>
Louise Upston <louise.upston@parliament.govt.nz>
Nicky Wagner <nicky.wagner@parliament.govt.nz>
Kate Wilkinson <kate.wilkinson@parliament.govt.nz>
Maurice Williamson <maurice.williamson@parliament.govt.nz>
Michael Woodhouse <michael.woodhouse@parliament.govt.nz>
Jian Yang <jian.yang@parliament.govt.nz>
Jonathan Young <jonathan.young@parliament.govt.nz>

NEW ZEALAND FIRST MPs:

Asenati Lole-Taylor <asenati.lole-taylor@parliament.govt.nz>
Tracey Martin <tracey.martin@parliament.govt.nz>
Denis O’Rourke <denis.orourke@parliament.govt.nz>
Winston Peters <winston.peters@parliament.govt.nz>
Richard Prosser <richard.prosser@parliament.govt.nz>
Barbara Stewart <barbara.stewart@parliament.govt.nz>
Andrew Williams <andrew.williams@parliament.govt.nz>

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Thank God for the Greens

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Credit where credit’s due. Credit is due to the Greens—in particular, to Green MPs Kevin Hague, Mojo Mathers and Metiria Turei—for their input into the Psychoactive Substances Bill, which has its third and final reading on Thursday.

I endorse the Green Party minority view on animal testing. Here it is.

Animal testing

The introduction of a requirement that psychoactive substances are proven to be relatively safe before being sold in New Zealand inevitably creates the requirement for a whole new area of product safety testing. It is unsurprising that this has given rise to very significant concern from New Zealanders who oppose the cruel treatment of animals and who believe that testing of these products on animals in order to establish safety is unnecessary and, indeed, inferior to alternative methods. This view has widespread public support, as public opinion polls on the subject have demonstrated, and many individuals and organisations received encouragement from the Minister and others to express their concerns in submissions to the select committee.

However, on 8 May 2013 the Health Committee Chair ruled that all submissions received on the subject of animal testing were outside the scope of the bill, and these submissions were returned to those who made them without being considered. By a majority the committee decided to reject a Green Party motion to hear evidence from these submitters even if their submissions were out of scope. It is the Green Party’s very strong view that both of these decisions were wrong.

The Clerk of the House had provided advice that amendments to the bill that sought to outlaw product testing on animals were out of scope. However, nearly all of the submissions that were rejected raised issues that could have been addressed by an amendment to the bill to prohibit the use of information derived from animal testing in an application for a licence. The Clerk has advised that such an amendment would clearly be in scope, and the Green Party believes that it was therefore manifestly wrong to refuse to hear public submissions on the matter.

Belatedly the committee did receive advice from the chair of the Interim Psychoactive Substances Expert Advisory Committee, which had been asked by the Minister to comment on the animal testing issues, but which also did not have access to the submissions that had been rejected by the Health Committee chair. That advice was that the interim committee does not believe substances can be established to be low risk without animal testing. This effectively introduces a requirement that there be animal testing data for licence applications, and this new requirement has been introduced entirely without any views from the general public, animal welfare organisations or experts (except those who happen to be on the interim committee).

The Green Party believes this to be profoundly unsatisfactory. In our view, with the initial decision to reject these submissions having been shown to be in error, the correct course of action would have been to reopen submissions on this specific matter.

In the absence of a select committee hearing these submissions, the Green Party invited those individuals and organisations who wished to have their voice heard to do so in a separate hearing. We found as follows:

Non-animal tests are available and more accurate

Evidence was heard that many countries do not use animal testing for pre-clinical trials for safety because the results from non-animal testing are more reliable. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) said that in 2008 the United States Environmental Protection Agency, the National Institute of Health, and the Food and Drug Administration started a process to replace all toxicology testing on animals with non-animal techniques to produce results that are more relevant to humans.

Submitters talked about other countries that use these non-animal testing programmes as a preference to animal testing. Evidence was presented that the data from animal testing was actually less reliable in safety testing than non-animal testing. It was argued that if the bill allows for the lower quality data from animal testing to be acceptable evidence of safety then human health would be put at risk.

NZAVS gave evidence about the Ministry of Health’s proposed testing regime and outlined in detail the non-animal testing options that are available to provide an adequate, if not superior, guarantee of safety.

A safety testing regime would include four stages:

  • manufacturing and controls information

  • preclinical toxicology studies

  • human clinical studies

  • post registration surveillance

It is this pre-clinical testing where animal testing would be used.

The initially proposed pre-clinical testing involves four proposed parts, each of which has well regarded non-animal testing options.

Type of testing Non-animal option
Acute toxicity
  • Ames Test

  • Neutral Red Uptake Assay

  • In vitro micronucleus assay as required by Health Canada

  • 3D models with cultured human cells

  • Computer models

Repeat dose toxicity
  • Various in vitro human cell line studies e.g. liver, lungs, bone marrow (tests for effects on the immune system)

  • Quantitative Structure-Activity Relationship (QSAR) computer modelling

Toxicokinetic investigations
  • Cell line tests

  • In vitro absorption tests e.g. Caco-2 cells

  • Computer modelling

  • In vitro assays on hepatocytes (liver cells)

  • Physiologically Based Toxicokinetic (PBTK) modelling

Genotoxicity
  • Ames test

  • In vitro cell gene mutation test

  • In vitro chromosomal aberration test

  • In vitro cell micronucleus test

New Zealand’s international reputation is at risk

It was argued by submitters that New Zealand is known as an innovative country with a reputation for good animal welfare. Submitters said that developing legislation which allows for unnecessary animal testing will damage this reputation, especially given that there is an international trend towards avoiding animal testing wherever possible. SAFE submitted that this is an opportunity to avoid risking our reputation and to enhance our reputation as an innovative and ethical country.

Submitters also gave evidence that other countries are looking to New Zealand’s development of regulation of psychoactive substances as a potential model for their own regulation. Some of these countries also do not allow animal testing of recreational drugs. If they choose to follow the model developed in this bill as it stands they will adapt it to fit their bans on animal testing of recreational drugs.

NZAVS gave evidence gained from an Official Information Act request of correspondence between the chair of the National Animal Welfare Advisory Committee and her equivalent in the United Kingdom that showed the UK ban on animal testing would also apply to psychoactive substances.

Animal testing is ethically and morally questionable

One submission from an animal rescue organisation, Helping You Help Animals (HUHA), talked about the pain and discomfort that these sorts of tests inflict on animals. Their organisation was involved with rescuing dogs from an animal testing facility and they witnessed serious damage and harm to those animals.

They spoke about their experiences of working with some people who carry out animal testing who had been overexposed to animal suffering and had lost their empathy when it came to the animals under their care.

Submitters told the hearings that unless it was ruled out in the bill, then animal testing would most likely be carried out in other countries, some of which have no animal welfare regulations and so the conditions can be assumed to be worse.

A number of countries already ban non-medical animal testing from an ethical standpoint. Toxicity testing is particularly painful experimentation. Submitters argued that the consideration of this bill is the chance for New Zealand to draw an ethical line on this issue.

Cost implications of non-animal testing

The cost of alternatives to animal testing is significantly higher. Because the cost of safety testing for a product will be carried by the manufacturers, not the Government, submitters argued that this higher cost of non-animal testing creates an incentive for animal testing to be used.

In fact, the point was made that if the bill does not rule out the use of data from animal testing then the cost difference will ensure that manufacturers use the cheapest method to provide evidence, and that will be animal testing regardless of the quality of that evidence.

Submitters spoke about the dominance of animal testing in the industry in New Zealand—it is the norm, rather than a last resort. Evidence was received to show that this is also the case in some countries such as China where a large amount of contract animal testing is undertaken.

There was evidence presented by submitters that, if data from animal testing is ruled out, businesses will adapt their practices and the cost of non-animal testing will drop as demand for these tests increases and capacity to undertake these tests develops.

Recommendation

The Green Party recommends that an amendment should be made to the Psychoactive Substances Bill to exclude the use of new information gained through animal testing as evidence in determining the safety of an application.

(Disclaimer. I’m not a big fan of the Greens as a general rule. Their economic and environmental polices are whack. A Green government would be ruinous for New Zealand. But, at times like this, I’m very glad that the Greens have a Parliamentary presence.)