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‘Single Use’ shopping bags! How Socialism turns virtue into vice.
Some one I know was at their childs school purchasing Schoolbooks for the new year when another parent struggling with a Big stack of stationary was asked if she would like a bag, it was then that my friend said she had plenty of bags at home and asked the school staff if they would like her to drop them in, yet they declined her offer exclaiming “Oh we dont used plastic bags at this school!”.
Obviously this was part of their ‘Conscientious Environmentalism’.
‘How virtuous’ one might think… ‘Great example for the children!’ one might think… and yet again… how disingenuous given the ecological fact that the more often a plastic bag is utilized… the less wasteful… the more ‘environmentally friendly’ it becomes… when you do the math… so this school is *Not* really acting conscientiously but is actually ‘not thinking’… I think thier no plastic bag policy is simply pretentious ‘virtue signalling’ and pushing a populist Liberal anti-plastic bag agenda… which has managed to get the New Zealand government to impose a freakish prohibition on Supermarkets using ‘single use’ plastic bags to carry groceries from the counter… yet you can still put your various veges into their own plastic bags… etc etc, and now for 15 cents you can buy Plastic bags that are far more substantial than the old ones with handles and Big Word ‘REUSE, REUSE, REUSE’ printed on them! 😀
Its just plain weird.
The whole thing is absurd and I am sure that mathematically this new prohibition has achieved less than nothing for the New Zealand environment… and yet no doubt there are thousands of Anti-plastic bag Liberals who are gushing with delight when they see the thousands of socially engineered Shoppers using hessian baggies to transport their purchases to their Fossil fuel burners.
And of course this is only the beginning of theses Environmentalist lobby to use Government force to impose their personal values on their subject Neighbours.
What will be their next target? Disposable paper cups and straws have already been targeted… what about Disposable paper towels?
They are already hard at work trying to discourage people from buying Meat and dairy products, and are lobbying for Tax increases on these things as we speak!
This is how Socialism works… how socialism despises Freedom… and encourages Taxes,Tyranny and oppression to grow… all under the cloak of virtue… ‘Saving the planet’… etc etc.
And absolutely nothing is safe from their Self righteous gaze.
“Who Cares!” a Woke Vegan might declare!
For the Masses of zealous Eco-warriors they have little concern for how they achieve their goals… to them ‘the end justifies the means’.
To them if Government crushes *their values* and refuses to impose *their whims* ‘Government is Evil’, yet when Woke Party political people wield the power and they use it to Crush the values of those they despise… all of a sudden ‘Government is Awesome!’.
Socialism is all about Power and Control.
Their ‘Woke’ agenda is that they hate the dairy and Meat industries and want to force everyone into becoming vegetarians, and to do this they go to extreme lengths in their propaganda to demonise these things and make out that they are on a crusade for ‘Better Diets and Health’ when in reality they simply want to destroy their ideological enemies… people who enjoy Steak and Ice cream… and there is no extreme to which they will not stoop to Legislate away our freedom to choose for ourselves.
Yet Let me state for the record that Socialism *is immoral*… Socialism is *Anti-virtue/pro-slavery*!!!
Walk with me a while and i’ll explain how Socialism can take Good Values and turn them into the evil tools of oppression… it can take virtuous ideals and make them the tools of Evil powers… and this current plastic bag ban is a great example.
Now I know of a good and decent person (whose name is not important for the purpose of this monologue) who from reading and watching all the horror stories about ‘Massive floating islands of plastic waste in the oceans… photos of Fish and birds with plastic items trapping them, or carcasses on the beach with plastic spilling out of their entrails , etc (some of these images are obviously Politically fabricated for propaganda purposes) she has become very concerned about Plastic waste in the environment to the degree that she will wash out all the plastic packaging from their household usage, and store it all, and then travel to wherever necessary to ensure it is either recycled or otherwise ‘ethically disposed of’.
Even though I believe New Zealanders suffer a gigantic amount of deceptive Propaganda about Environmentalism, I would never suggest that her concerns for the environment are not of themselves virtuous, or that her activities and self imposed disciplines with respect to plastic were not completely within her rights so to act… and that as long as she was doing these things voluntarily… even if some of her behavior was not actually achieving *any real world benefits to the environment* … she is absolutely within her right to try and live her life according to her own values and the dictates of her heart…That is what having personal values and beliefs are all about! That is what *self responsibility is all about* … and this is what a free society is all about… having a society of enlightened self responsible citizens who voluntarily follow virtue!
And ultimately… if by any means the world is to be saved from Evil… That is how you go about saving the environment!
Multipy this type of personal voluntary action, and that is how you have a population that does not need a policeman in every bush to prevent them from littering… or Government Laws to prevent them from making poor choices when they shop.
And a Year ago… when she was voluntarily bringing her own carry bags to the supermarket so as to avoid using the plastic bags they provide for convenience… she could claim that she was acting *Conscientiously and Virtuously*… but not now… not since the Labour Green Governments silly Ban on shopping Bags… because the Government has taken away any virtue there was in this activity, and effectively turned it into an act of involuntary slavery… and Virtue is a matter of Conscious action… not compulsion.
A year ago some supermarkets (like Countdown) were picking up on this populist environmental feeling and had decided that they would voluntarily stop using plastic carry bags!
Ie They acted *without the need for a government Law to be imposed*… and though this did impose some inconvenience for shoppers and some would not have appreciated that, many others like my environmentalist friend I have been talking about would have been greatly pleased by this and no doubt would have switched shops to do her shopping at Countdown… a perfect match of Capitalism and happy consumers… which because it was mutually voluntary… and involved no coercion… *this form of getting rid of plastic carry bags was completely within the Libertarian paradigm*… completely within the requisites of virtue… and showed that Social change *can and does happen without socialist Government intervention*… *yet of course the socialist Liberal Eco-warriors of The Labour and Green Parties have zero respect for Liberty and voluntary action* and effectively *RUINED* the progress of Freedom by imposing a nationwide ban on plastic supermarket carry bags… taking away from Countdown their ‘voluntary Progressive decision and point of difference with other supermarkets’… and now These political parties act/ ‘Virtue signal’ that *their use of political power has made New Zealand Cleaner and Green* when in reality our country was already moving in that direction *without prohibitions*… via voluntary conscious action.
These are the very same Socialist Political parties that have the cheek to think they are experts on Adult behaviour and the principle of Consent!!!
Everything they do… all their policies are anti voluntary action… Pro-force… anti-consent.
Multiply this Anti-freedom… anti- Voluntary action… anti-consent mentality and activity across the board and you easily see why Socialism is oppressive and tyrannical and functions by coercion… Not enlightened voluntary actions flowing from enlightened values.
It generates a Nation of Slavish zombies… whose actions are not truly virtuous at all!
A typical example of a virtue {Environmental concern) being used as a pseudo-moral justification for Evil Political parties manufacturing evil and oppressive laws.
And Like I said above this modus opperandi is constantly at work… constantly looking for more apparent ‘virtues’ to turn into political weapons to rob their enemies of their Freedom and to further their Party political ambitions.
And the bitter irony is that despite all the brainwashing about Global warming… all the eco-indoctrination going on in the School system… and all the pretentious Veganism and ‘Woke signaling’ we see, These Liberals can still be found *Littering* on our Beaches and roads!
This is because they have not been instilled with virtue… but have instead been lobotomized!
This is the un=expected consequence of Socialism’s attempt to circumvent personal values and Voluntary actions.
A society of Less personal virtue.
The Notion that ‘the end justifies the means’ turns out to mean Any supposed desired end can be dressed up as ‘Good for society’ and then used to pass Despotic Laws.
Libertarians already know all these things, and so my post is mainly hoping to reach out to ‘Woke folk’… eco-warriors, feminists, etc to show them how their values and ideals are being contorted and fooling them into supporting Tyranny… as surely a foolish Christians have been duped by Politicians into supporting tyranny against gays, Prostitutes, Drug uses, etc etc.
This is the *vice* I am referring to… the vice of supporting Totalitarian Government that tries to circumvent Liberty and personal virtue substituting these with Compulsions and prohibitions.
This is what I mean when I say Socialism systematically turns virtues (and values) into vice.
I despise being ‘Socially Engineered’ by Nasty politicians who have Zero respect for my Rights.
I constantly shake my fist towards the Beehive when I have spontaneously decided to ‘duck in’ to the Supermarket and get a few things only to realise I dont have any re-usable Bags with me in my car… yet a mountain of them at home in the cupboard!
Blowed if I am going to buy another 3-4 Hessian bag, and so I end up staking loose items in the dirty Boot of my car and drop a few in the carpark!
All this because of arrogant politicians want to pretend at being virtuous!
Via their Evil politics they can turn otherwise good intentions and values into a great new Evil… because a virtuous ‘End’ cannot justify *Evil and Oppressive means*.
The only virtue any individual can be credited for or take self esteem from are their personal voluntary actions and ideals.
And just because I oppose oppressive environmental legislation does not mean I dont care about the planet!
It means I believe in Liberty and seeking to make the world a better place by Reason, enlightenment, and *converting individuals* to following virtue.
I am a Christian who holds Christian values and beliefs, yet I know that Christian virtues cannot be imposed upon unbelievers by political force, but can only be legitimate when voluntarily embraced by those whom have herd the Christian arguments… and believe them in liberty…. for this is *the only way* true virtues like charity work!… from the heart! So Social welfare is *not Charity* because it is funded via involuntary Taxes… It is the opposite of charity… it is a counterfeit charity of the Devil… so too is the current Ban on the use of Plastic shopping bags a *counterfeit virtue*… Socialism is a Counterfeit Morality…. Satan appears as an Angel of light… and Laughing spreads his wings.
Tim Wikiriwhi.
Libertarian Independent.
More from Tim…
REAL VOLUNTARY PRIVATE CHARITY VS THE EVILS OF WELFARE AND POLITICAL FORCE. .
THE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP IS A VOLUNTARY PRIVATE SOCIETY, NOT A THEOCRATIC POLITICAL MOVEMENT
ALBERT J NOCK AND THE ATROPHY OF CHARITY AND SELF-RELIANCE
SATURN’S CHILDREN. LIBERTARIANISM AND ABORTION.
Whale Oil Blog…. Plastic bags: Another useless green moral panic.
For Reference, an edited version of my blogpost appeared as a Guest post on the Whale Oil Blog here : How socialism turns virtues into vice
Stuff: The rise of vegetarians: 1 in 10 New Zealanders mostly, or completely, meat-free
Kiwis are eating less meat than ever, and are more concerned about plastic than climate change.
The Atheist delusion. David Berlinski
“Has anyone provided proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close. Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close. Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close. Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough. Has rationalism and moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough. Has secularism in the terrible 20th century been a force for good? Not even close, to being close. Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy in the sciences? Close enough. Does anything in the sciences or their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even in the ball park. Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.”
David Berlinski
“If somebody says something to me particularly stupid, yet they say it with Proper Grammar… Then I immediately assume the following…What Graduate school did you attend?…”
Dennis Prager.
“The Chaotic forces have taken over education…”
Watch this great video (below)
When Vaccinations Go Bad: When Trusting Authority Costs you Everything… The Tragic Case of the Laulu Children.
This post does not seek to belittle, or blame Christine and Karl Laulu, but to take their tragic experiences and use them for education… hopefully to help people grasp the issues at stake… not only the very real risks involved in vaccination of babies, but also of what happens when we put too much faith in ‘Authorities’ whether they be Official… or seemingly unbiased academics.
These Samoan Parents Lost a child to vaccination… had another child… and lost that one too… to vaccination!
An article on their sad experiences is here… Karl and Christine Laulu continue to grieve for two babies lost after vaccinations in Samoa
Alana-Rae Laulu
Experts now suspect the family has a rare genetic condition… Read Rare condition suspected in children who died after MMR vaccinations
This article also admits other children died minutes after vaccinations for Measels Mumps and Rubella.
We are subject to heavy indoctrination and pressure to trust the establishment, to the degree that Parents who choose not to vaccinate are accused of being ‘antiscience’ … Schools raving on that abstainers are dangerously incompetent as parents… and endangering other children… who have assumingly had their vaccinations (Figure out the logic on that one!), etc, etc.
Socialists are trying to pass legislation to make vaccinations compulsory resulting in the removal of parental rights and ownership of our children by the state… and this is nothing new. It is how socialism has always opperated… by force… by an all powerful state and ever diminishing personal rights and responsibilities.
Vaccination has become an industry about profit more than medicine..
I will highlight two facts in particular with respect to this case.
Here we see the folly of the ‘one size fits all’ approach to health and medicine.
From these tragic cases of the Laulu children we see that *There can be individual factors* that make something that is safe and effective for most… ineffective and even Fatal for others… and we could spend all day enunciating examples of this fact… and that small minds operate on a single simplistic cognitive level… and to follow on from this and record the fact that this family case is an example that vindicates the reality that the Anti-Vaxx crowd *are not without plenty of evidence* that Vaccines can and do destroy lives! and that this is a very real risk factor Parents must consider when deciding whether or not to vaccinate their Kids.
The Truth is *Even the vested interests in the establishment knows this risk is real*, and that there are thousands of cases of adverse reactions and deaths from their Quackery… yet they are hell bent on downplaying this reality and deceiving people like the Laulu’s into subjecting their children to the System.
After their first child Jamie ray died after his vaccination , No Doubt these poor parents had second thoughts about subjecting their next child yet we can be sure they were ‘Persuaded’ by the establishment that their second child would be fine…. Their trust would again blow up in their face when their Daughter Alana-Rae died two years later!
Their mistake was to trust the sloped opinions of Orthodoxy and suffer the cost *twice*!
And this stuff is going on every day around the globe with ‘Health experts’ simply writing off these Deaths, and severe side effects as ‘Collateral damage in the ‘war against disease’.
That there is any need to vaccinate against Measels and mumps is extremely questionable given that historically parents would deliberately expose their children to these diseases… to get them over and done with… building up immunity *naturally* without any need for Pharmaceutical company merchandise.
We can easily see that our population… via subversion of the education system has been indoctrinated into believing Vaccination for Measles and mumps is a Must… and that this is propaganda motivated by profit cloaked as ‘Contentious parenting’… and that Socialists take this subject as an opportunity to accrue more power to the state… using the state education system to indoctrinate the masses.
As an informed Libertarian parent over the past 8 years my wife and I have had to make a decision about vaccinating my son… and though my wife’s had a female cousin that suffered a catastrophic reaction to the Rubella vaccination some 3 decades ago… leaving her mentally handicapped, wheelchair bound, and dead before 30… we still went ahead with his courses, so any accusation that I am a staunch ‘Anti-vaxx’ nutbar is proven false… yet I do not blame any parents who decide they dont want to subject their beloved young children to the quacks.
Like any ‘industry’… Orthodox medicine is a vested interest that seeks to skew the public dialogue in its favour.
It has a vested interest to try and crush any competition which takes the form of ‘alternative treatments’, etc… and belittle any criticism against itself.
When the government acts in favour of large pharmaceutical companies against alternative private health practitioners This is fascism.
We should be ‘free to choose’… yet always taking care to make informed decisions…. There is no escaping this personal responsibility… to simply trust the ‘experts’ without investigation is extremely risky… yet Governments want you to abdicate your rights and responsibility for your own health.
Politicians are constantly campaigning on the idea that its the governments Job to Nanny us all like children when it comes to our health, and that is their excuse for heavy taxes on Smokes, booze, and why they want to add taxes to sugar and fats.
I hope all my readers are today well aware about how wrong Orthodoxy has been about animal Fats!
Read more: Diet and Fat: A Severe Case of Mistaken Consensus
The Socialists attempting to make immunisation compulsory is a Global problem… an agenda that takes away parental rights and gives ownership of your children to the state
“It takes a Village” say Hillary Clinton!
She says raising Children is primarily the States Job and that Parents are merely ‘second tier’ caregivers….
This is about absolute power and control over future generations!
I have many friends and family who work within the medical establishment and I do not seek to belittle the great work that they do… yet still in private conversations they will admit to me how much guesswork and shoddy practices go on… how State Budgets put pressure on staff and that mistakes can happen.
Few people understand that Deaths from medical misadventure in New Zealand are more prolific that deaths from Car accidents… even though most of us will know people who have suffered and died because of poor care within the system.
As a Libertarian I believe the state should not be involved in the health industry and that this in itself is the greatest single cause of out ‘suffer and die while you wait’ status quo and that full privatization of health (with the requisite reduction in taxes) would be a gigantic step forward… not only in efficiency… but also in putting the power and responsibility for our own health back into our own hands… breaking our dependency on Nanny State.
So while smokers would get huge Tax reductions… they would have to do the math on their health insurance… same with the Obese… etc etc… ie there would be natural intensives to abandon vise and live healthier lives.
There is a great delusion about the benefits of state health.
Doctors and hospitals were not invented by governments but were ‘appropriated’ by them.
And the level of care in the public health system is extremely low compared to Private hospitals,etc.
Walking the Grey halls of your average State hospital feels like you are transported to Soviet Russia!
Staff complain about wages.
The whole idea of being involved in health or education as being a vocation rather than a money making career has absolutely evaporated under socialism.
To many doctors and Nurses we patients are just like broken down cars to mechanics… how they make Bank… the humanity is slipping away.
I have my own facebook page Self Help. Alternative Treatments and Health the idea being to put people back in control of their own health issues.
Please like… and contribute.
I am very liberal with what I post there… my job is not so much to endorse suggested alternative veiws and treatments as it is to provide a forum where people can find things to make up their own minds and discuss.
Tim Wikiriwhi
Libertarian independent.
Pay Homage to Multiverse theory !
Idiot hippies are calling this “Environmental art…
No!
You superstitious fools!
Atheist *Scientists* argue… and they would know… because they are so much smarter than idiots who believe in ‘Intelligent design’… and…. you are not *qualified enough* to have any contrary opinion of weight…. they say this is ‘simply’ a natural occurrence… no design… fully explicable via the laws of gravity, mass, motion, etc.
Pay Homage to Multiverse theory!
We just so happen to live in a universe where this happened…. randomly… without a creator…
Dont argue… you are ‘Anti-science’… (and probably a terrorist)
Just believe….
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.
More…. Evolution in action. Dr Richard Nixon.
The pain of Eternal Vigilance is too much to blog!
The world has been taken over by Sub-humans. ( proof of De-evolution/ Entropy… the world is getting more ridiculous not less)
Seriously… the main reason why there are so few new Blog posts here @ Eternal vigilance… is because of the absolute chaos that is afoot… yet… is numbingly accepted as ‘Business as usual’ by our left/ right/ center socialist Democratic lunatic asylum Masses of dumbfounded dipshits.
Its literally Driving Eternal vigilance bloggers to Clinical depression!
By Gods Grace I try to practice the dictim…
I could Blog on the latest news of arsewipe NZ Bankers and ‘Tax working group’ who think that a 10% capital gains tax would be wonderful because it could be expected to deliver a 10.8% reduction on house prices…. forget the vested interest bankers have in pouring poop on any investment decisions you may dare to make that they dont get the biggest cut…. and of course *the government* is just itching… like a meth addict… to get that 10 %.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104818079/capital-gains-tax-would-cut-house-prices-by-10-stephens
I could blog about the latest conundrum in archaeology in the holy land… with respect to a Clay figurine’s decapitated head and the arguements as to which *biblical figure* the head depicts… all options being recorded in the Bible (yes… the bible is history folks… not fairy tales).
But lets ignore the facts… too inconvenient for the many.
I could blog about The most vile politician in New Zealand today…. the guy who is such a snake that he suckered me to voting for him…. Winston Peters… now acting Prime minister… and the dirty coalition deals he did with the super dishonest Jarcinda Ardern… and how ridiculous it is that the NZ Herald thinks that Peters… the Political Dinosaur… will struggle to wear Jacaranda’s Pull up nappies and trendy little disco PM boots!
and lets ignore the ‘Gay abandon’ Shane Jones and Whinnie have flamboyantly Twerked in farmers faces with respect to their choreographed condemnation of ‘Fonterra executives’ for their massive losses in China!
You simply cant get greater shyster political Posturing for the sake of ones own ends… by duping a powerful demographic than that!
I could talk about the absolute pathetic wallowing of National party Leader Simon Bridges pandering to the Greens … ‘Global warming agenda’… in the face of propaganda that Antarctica is melting… despite the fact that NASA says it is growing… a pathetic…. act of desperation on his part!
Antarctic ice has set an unexpected record, and scientists are struggling to figure out why
And on and on it goes…. as we sail towards the abyss of stupidity!
I would quit completely and pray for comets to fall from the sky if it were not for my Children… and their children… and your children… who must inherit this Catastrophe from us… A Generation of abject failures.
The Brain sapping suckiness of it all has reached levels of lobotomy that should not be possible!
Hence I can barely write any blogs as the impetus gets immediately sucked into the void!
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.
On the Plus side… There was Trapeze!
Headcase
It’s been over seven long months since the last time I just dropped in here to try to explain my absence from my own blog. In a word, depression.
I must preface the following remarks in this paragraph by saying that I regard psychiatry as a pseudoscience. I regard psychiatrists in general with contempt. Nonetheless, depression is classified as a psychiatric illness. I suffer from it myself (see link above). Regardless of the true nature of the beast, it truly is a beast. It is a life-threatening condition. Up to 10% of people who are diagnosed with clinical depression (aka major depressive disorder) take their own lives, sooner or later. Over 50% of all people who die by suicide suffer from clinical depression. In fact, 90% of all people who die by suicide suffer from depression, alcoholism, or some other diagnosable psychiatric disorder at the time of their deaths. Suicide claims more lives than war, murder, and natural disasters combined.
Of course, all of the above has just been brought home to me yet again after I read yesterday’s blog post by my co-blogger Tim on the tragic death of his friend Bruce Davies. May he rest in peace.
I’d now like to turn to something more positive.
The whole truth is that my prolonged break from blogging has been due to more than just my mental malaise. Several other factors have also contributed to the decline in my blogging output over the last couple of years. And one of them is that over the past year and a bit I’ve been spending rather too much of my spare time learning to play the bass guitar! It’s become my obsession. In fact, I’ve gotten good enough at it that I’m now in a punk rock three-piece called Headcase. I’m on bass, Bill the drummer’s on drums, and Simon’s on guitar and vocals.
Sure, so far we’ve had only one actual band practice, but it’s early days yet. We’re going to attempt a few covers to begin with, starting with a song called Submission by the Sex Pistols, and then we’ll take it from there. Watch this space.
But as well as becoming a rock star in my spare time I really want to get back into blogging on a regular basis. I’ve missed it. I’m out of practice. And I have writer’s block. So I thought I’d warm up with an album review. And a controversial opinion, viz., that The Endless River is Pink Floyd’s best album since Wish You Were Here.
But it’s been a hell of a day, it’s getting late, so my review will have to wait. There are only so many spoons in a day.
Meanwhile, I’m very much still alive, still here, and, furthermore, I’m back. 🙂
Willful Ignorance and the Limits of human reason (without Divine Revelation.)
Today I want to make my rebuttal of a friends defense for Larkin Rose’s expressed position on God/ Deism.
Larken Rose Recognizes the fingerprint of Intelligence within the incredible design of living things yet appears ambivalent towards any further thought or discussion about the ramifications of this Revelation.
He reminds me of the late A Flew… the once High priest of Atheism who in the face of the discoveries of Modern science esp the complexity of living things abandoned his Atheism for belief in Intelligent design… yet never made the full traverse to Bible believing Faith in THE LORD.
Flew was an honest thinker yet ran out of Time…whereas Larken Rose still has time to discover the truth… yet his attitude appears to me to be that of a Man who does not really want to go down that road…and I question his motives.
I argue why Deism may once have been forgivable/ understandable in the distant past, yet is inexcusable today, and that now Reason and Logic are on the side of the Theist.
While both entail the belief in a Creator God, what distinguishes Deism from Theism is that Deism rejects Divine interventions in the affairs of Men… No Miracles to circumvent the laws of Nature… and esp No Divine special Revelations to mankind.
It will be necessary for me to skip over large portions of history and related material for the sake of brevity such as the Deism of the 18th century.
(I will have to do a separate Blog post on these important aspects of this topic at some later date, and insert a link to it here)
Watch Larken Rose Here…
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Ten or more years ago I was asked to debate Hamilton based Atheists for the existence of the Christian God.
One of my opponents was Garry Mallett from Act.
Now The only reason I have mentioned this debate is because the 2nd part of my argument was the logical assumption that *If there is in fact a God (in the Full context of the word) and that he made us human beings…as Rational, conscious beings… that it would be a reasonable assumption to think that surely he would communicate with us some how… who he is… why he made us…etc rather than just leaving us Ignorant about such things.
That was my premise for why it is rational to at least consider the possibility that the Bible’s claim to be the Divine Revelation from the Creator of the Universe to be a plausible possibility at least… and that the honest thinking person having first concluded that the Universe and Living things are best understood as the products of intelligent design… that following upon that, that The Bible answers the questions that naturally flow on…. The *Who* is this Great designer of the Universe… and what message does he have for us… his Conscious Rational Moral Free Agent Creations… and most importantly… that such a Revelation is precisely what the rational mind would expect from the God who is there… rather than silence.
This is an argument that places Theism as superior to mere Deism and in fact renders belief in Deism today to be a cop out…poor reasoning at best… mostly willful ignorance.
Deism and Theism both draw upon what has been described as ‘Natural religion’… Ideas about God derived from looking at Nature… looking at what has been described as ‘The Book of God’s works’.
Yet Theism makes an additional claim that we have a second Book that we may also gain direct and infallible knowledge about God.. The Book of his actual words.
Deism/ Natural Religion is great up to certain point, yet severely limited as it can never tell us Human beings *who God is*… only that he is there… and that he is super intelligent and super powerful, and that there is some sort of Objective moral law which We Human beings ought to at least try and live by… that gives our Moral sence some legitimate foundation and purpose… rather than simply being some sort of illusion… mere sentiment… mere feelings.
An Idea such as ‘Kharma’, or ‘Reaping what you sow’… These are the sorts of ideas human beings have arrived at via contemplating nature… ‘Do unto others as you would have done unto you’ … ‘Be Good’… we know that’Theft is evil’…because we hate it when someone steals from us… so dont steal from others… yet still none of this has anything higher than our own opinion to rest upon… or the opinion of ‘wise others’… and is therefore not impervious to arguments of evil men that assert that all such moralizations are vacuous.
Dark minds may posit the question… Maybe the Deity is Malevolent?
Do not Floods and Earthquakes signal that our creator is far from a caring God! ????
Is the only Moral Rule …contrary to what the wowzers would have us believe…that the Strong may subject the weak?
Are they trying to subject the strong to whiles of the weak?
What the heck is really going on?
Deism cant definitively answer this… yet it gives those whom cling to it a certain self-justification for not being Nihilistic… for claiming they are Moral and good. (something that is necessary because of what the bible describes as our innate knowledge/ consciousness of Good and evil)
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:…”
St Paul. Romans 1:20.
Yet Deism says *Nobody can claim to really know*.
Now I love many of the Great heathen thinkers of classical times, whom both believed a God exists, and that Humanity should be moral, and because of the times and places in which *they lived* I accept that they really had taken ‘Natural religion’ to its highest forms and that they had no ‘Rungs upon which they could possibly ascend higher and closer to God’, and that they were Good, wise, Moral men…In the context of how good any man might be under such circumstances. (Separated/ aliens from Israel, mostly living before the advent of Christ)
It is at this plateau that many of the Great Heathen moral thinkers had arrived.
The Stoic Marcus Aurelius is supposed to have said…
Though Aurelius lived post-Christ and had ‘herd’ about the Christians and held negative opinions about them, I am not sure to what degree he had any real first hand communications with them, or any familiarity with the Old testament/ Book of Genesis, thus I tend to consider his situation as very similar to that of the *Pre-Christ* Gentile thinkers… Aliens from the Divine revelation.
He was a very interesting thinker…God will judge him.
Here is an interesting link to this Topic
Now As a Christian Theist who believes the Bible, I know there are Mountains of the most vital truths missing from this Natural/Deistic Faith position because I have the Divine Revelation… The Holy inspired and preserved words of God Almighty himself esp the Facts That Humanity is under a curse because of our Sin, and that our Sin separates us from God and puts us in danger of His Judgement and Damnation.
*It is possible*… because it is so obvious… without the aid of scripture to apprehend by the power of reason alone Humanities fallen/ sinful condition… our wickedness… our depravity… our Cruelty…. and perhaps from this a rationale may be conceived of the need to somehow appease the anger of the God(s)… for justice sake… all sorts of weird Ideas have been proposed… *Yet via reason it would be impossible to conceive of the doctrine of Christs virgin birth, and substitutional atonement for our sins, and resurrection*…from nature alone.
Indeed many Naturally minded people find these Doctrines repugnant… which leads to my main contentions for this blog about Deists living today in western civilization… and their willful ignorance/ rejection of the Divine Revelation… the Bible in which all these doctrines are laid out in the most Logical fashion from the very beginning in Genesis.
As I have said Deism is severely handicapped to what degree it can reveal the nature of God to us… limited in its certainty of moral precepts, etc, none the less *Today*…far from these limits as being considered by trendy thinkers as pitfalls… these people actually *enjoy* them!
Most of these are people *Today* … follow a trend that became fashionable from the end of the Great reformation who… for various reasons…good or bad… *hate organised religion* (which tends to be where Theistic claims of having ‘Divine revelation’ are most prevalent) … they also enjoy what they see as ‘the Freedom to do as they please… the only moral restraints being their own conscience… and esp that Deism can make no emphatic claims of Divine Judgement for moral failures… it cant even emphatically state the validity of any Human Judgement derived from Nature.
They will say that ‘Reason’ is the only Authority they will subject themselves to, and as they have reached to limits of Reason… they cannot be subject to any higher Moral authority or law.
Philosophers love to quote Hume … “you cant get an ‘Ought from an Is”.
Its Funny though that ordinary people seem to be able to do just that without much trouble appealing to sentiment… they are not moved by arguments that say we can have no confidence in these… in fact to my thinking …the rational approach to this mystery of consciousness to the ideas of Good and evil is not to say ‘We cant ever know’… but instead to set out *in faith* on a Pilgrimage to discover some means by which our sentiments can find Objective validation… It is a quest of discovery for the Divine revelation from the Intelligent Creator whose existence is testified by his Natural handiwork.
And It is an Irony that in a work by the great skeptic himself David Hume called ‘Dialogues concerning Natural religion’ in which there is a debate about the existence of God, in which Hume deploys his skeptical arguments in the person of ‘Philo’, yet stunningly… in the final analysis his Book ends by giving the victory to the Theist ‘Cleanthes’!
My contention at the Debate was that not only did the Deity Communicate his existence and expectations of Humanity via Prophets and the written word… He intervened into Human affairs in the Most personal manor…. He visited us… and Walked among us… God was manifest in the flesh.
“Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:…”
Now when you add up all the components I have briefly discussed above you ought to be able to grasp why it is that I myself am a Theist… a Bible believer… That the fact that we westerners have easy access to the King James Bible and the book of Genesis therein, that willfully seeking to remain ignorant of the Divine revelation is inexcusable… and why it is that I have a pet dislike for modern Deism… esp its corruption/heresy of what I call Christian Deism which I see as a pathetic retreat from true Christian Theistic faith…caused by a weakness in faith and Bad reasoning… in the face of Atheist sophistry. (Topic for another Post)
I actually struggle to contain my contempt!
I need to take 5… and chill… and remember that it is only by Gods grace that I myself am a Christian at all.
I need to remember *How alien* I once was… How utterly incapable of apprehending the existence of God let alone the truthfulness of the Bible!
It is with all this in mind that I decided to keep calm and write this post..
Recently A friend of mine tried to justify the Deism of one of his Favorite thinkers Larkin Rose, which I had critisised as being pathetic… because he refused to make the most basic inference that Intelligent design demands *GOD* and that from this obvious conclusion… if he was an honest thinker… would demand he then begin a personal pilgrimage to discover *Who* this Grand designer is.
My friend began to repair to the arguments *of Classical Deism* and the limits that Logic faced in that direction… as if that excuse… which of course appears quite valid when looking back to heathen lands… and times before Christ… aliens to the Divine Revelation, Yet This blogpost is my express rebuttal to that argument when applied to modern thinkers like Larkin.
It is invalid for Thinkers today to simply rest on that ancient Plateau… because they live post Christ and have access to the Bible and history.
This makes them fully culpable for rejecting Jesus Christ.
Socrates on the other hand was not privy to the Bible… and I even conjecture that he would have become a Christian had he been given the opportunity… so many of his conclusions about Divine things being in perfect harmony with the scriptures… that he never had opportunity to read.
I say that If Socrates would have considered the Gargantuan explanatory power for the first chapters in the book of Genesis…plus all the rest… the Biblical explanation for the existence of Evil…The explanation of why God has separated himself from mankind… why we die… why there are Natural disasters, etc etc that it is very possible that he would have realised that this divine revelation gives a great logical basis for Biblical theistic faith when one applies it to the world about him.
That in fact the Bible *Is the Revelation* of the Intelligent designer of everything…his message to us his creatures… esp telling us *Who he is*… and what is *Really* going on.
So I question why it is that though Larken Rose sees through the delusion of atheistic evolution, he still is apathetic towards discovering *Who God is* and challenge him to Read the King James Bible… to really contemplate it’s message… and that in doing so he would no longer be in a position to argue that Logic ends at the plateau of Natural religion.
The Bible is a logical extension from the Plateau at the top of the Mountain… upwards out of the stratosphere all the way… a direct line of communication to the Deity… a logical vindication of Bible believing christian Theism.
Of course Satan and his minions have been attacking the Bible, and via sophistry undermining faith in its veracity as The Bible is the Ultimate Fortress of God for the believer. It is the Ultimate Lighthouse in the storm of life Shining its beams upon the treacherous Rocks of peril, and a Guide of Safe passage… salvation to every soul who sees its light and navigates into the Harbour of God’s love and Grace.
Satan is the enemy Of God and Men’s souls…The Father of Lies… it was by cunning craftiness that he was able to deceive Eve, and get her to disbelieve Gods word and to Eat of the forbidden fruit, and he has been at this game the whole time… Deceiving… yet the word of God remains like a Rock
Happy Resurrection Day!
Tim Wikiriwhi.
Protestant, 1611 King James Bible believer, Dispensationalist, Christian Libertarian.
The last paragraphs of Humes Dialouges concerning Natural religion…
If the whole of Natural Theology, as some people seem to maintain, resolves itself into one simple, though somewhat ambiguous, at least undefined proposition, That the cause or causes of order in the universe probably bear some remote analogy to human intelligence: If this proposition be not capable of extension, variation, or more particular explication: If it affords no inference that affects human life, or can be the source of any action or forbearance: And if the analogy, imperfect as it is, can be carried no farther than to the human intelligence; and cannot be transferred, with any appearance of probability, to the other qualities of the mind: If this really be the case, what can the most inquisitive, contemplative, and religious man do more than give a plain, philosophical assent to the proposition, as often as it occurs; and believe that the arguments, on which it is established, exceed the objections, which lie against it? Some astonishment indeed will naturally arise from the greatness of the object: Some melancholy from its obscurity: Some contempt of human reason, that it can give no solution more satisfactory with regard to so extraordinary and magnificent a question. But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural sentiment, which a well-disposed mind will feel on this occasion, is a longing desire and expectation, that heaven would be pleased to dissipate, at least alleviate this profound ignorance, by affording some more particular revelation to mankind, and making discoveries of the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith. A person, seasoned with a just sense of the imperfections of natural reason, will fly to revealed truth with the greatest avidity: While the haughty Dogmatist, persuaded, that he can erect a complete system of Theology by the mere help of philosophy,
KS 228
disdains any farther aid, and rejects this adventitious instructor. To be a philosophical Sceptic is, in a man of letters, the first and most essential step towards being a sound, believing Christian; a proposition, which I would willingly recommend to the attention of Pamphilus: And I hope Cleanthes will forgive me for interposing so far in the education and instruction of his pupil.
D 12.34
Cleanthes and Philo pursued not this conversation much farther; and as nothing ever made greater impression on me, than all the reasonings of that day; so, I confess, that, upon a serious review of the whole, I cannot but think, that Philo’s principles are more probable than Demea’s; but that those of Cleanthes approach still nearer to the truth.
Read the whole Dialogue here (It is fabulous! 🙂 )
More from Tim…. The Rock of Divine Revelation.
Death of an Atheist. Follow the evidence.
Rapturous Amazement! The Advance of Science Converts The High Priest of Atheism to Deism. A Flew.
How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? (part1) Atheist Nihilism.
Christ’s work of Salvation on the Cross… The Great Equaliser.
John Key 2010 “We are Winning the P Battle! …. BULLSHIT!
How high can you stack Bullshit?
If You are a Populist Politician belonging to any of the mainstream parties you can stack it Flocking High!!!
In 2010 John Key boasted that The governments Heavy handed Tactics on P ‘were winning’… anyone familiar with Prohibition ought to have immediately smelled something very poo-ey…. World Leaders have been coming to realise that Prohibition *Never works!*… yet it suceeds in making society less safe…
The Police are executing people without trial… yet the problem keep getting worse….
When it comes to dealing with societies Pet Phobias… The more heavy handed the better.
Like the witch craze…. The Mass hysteria surrounding P (Meth) is a Licence to Kill.
Read : A life cut short by Police
Read: The New Jews… Meth Users.
The best indicator to their Failure is despite More funding… More Arrests, and Executions… and Extreme Punishments being meted out… Demand has not fallen, and the price of P is now almost half what it was in 2010!
In October last year, then-Prime Minister John Key acknowledged meth had become “the drug of choice” for some Kiwis.
Police needed to do more to stop it entering the country through remote areas like Northland, he said.
Key said at the time that a $15 million boost for anti-drug initiatives was not an admission the Government was losing the war against P.
John Key puts on his ‘Cant remember’ face.
^^^ What an evil lying Pig-headed Prick!
The Man is Deranged!
Anyone with any brains can see that The War on P is lost…
Anyone with Brains can see that Ongoing Cannabis Prohibition is also exacerbating the use of Meth… and that the best policy for making our country safer would be to legalise Cannabis… as has been happening in America!
And when it is proven that More Freedom… less tyranny actually works… more people will wake up to the truth that the War on drugs needs to be completely surrendered… yet of course,, the vested interests of Prohibition… the populist politicians…The Police… and The Drug Gangs… And the Growth indistry that has sprung up testing workers for Drugs… testing houses for contamination… repairing houses that have been blacklisted…. these vested interests and the Millions of Dopey dipshits who think they have the right to tell other people what they do with their own Bodies, time, and money… all these freaks will do everything they can to keep the war going…. Despite all the evidence that they are making things worse.
The word ‘insanity’ does not do justice to this Madness.
‘Hellbent’ ‘Psychopathic’ ‘Fanaticism’ ‘Malevolent-hatred’…. these are terms more suited to describe all the parties involved in perpetuating this Heinous War.
Satan Laughing spreads his wings.
Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.
Read on…
‘Meth now easier to get than cannabis in Northland, locals say’….
BROOKE BATH
January 19 2017
Methamphetamine has become easier to source in Northland than marijuana, according to locals.
Whangarei defence lawyer Kelly Ellis said according to her clients, P was soaring in availability over cannabis, which had long been considered the country’s preferred illegal drug.
“It makes sense, let’s get real about it,” she said.
“Meth is much more lucrative and much easier to do than having to carry smelly bags of cannabis around the place.”
Ellis deals with people at “the pointy end” of the drug trade, including meth users, dealers and manufacturers.
She said gang presence in the north had increased rapidly over the past five years, and what were once tinnie houses had converted to dealing the much harder drug.
The seizure of half a tonne of P from 90 Mile Beach in June was an indication of the size of New Zealand’s meth problem, she said.
“If you look at that as being a basic economic indicator of availability versus demand, it seems demand is not outstripping supply.”
Chris Fowlie, president of the New Zealand reform marijuana advocacy group NORML, said he too had heard meth was easier to come by than cannabis in Northland.
”People can’t find cannabis but they know where to get meth from a tinnie house,” he said.
“Gangs really do run the show because of fear of people growing their own.”
Detective Inspector Kevin Burke said the take-down of 12 local labs last year, on top of the June bust, was another indication of the “significant problem” meth had become.
“It illustrates, in addition to the importation of methamphetamine, there’s still a demand clearly for homegrown methamphetamine,” he said.
“At the end of the day it’s profit-driven and people are prepared to run the risk.”
In October, then-Prime Minister John Key acknowledged meth had become “the drug of choice” for some Kiwis.
Police needed to do more to stop it entering the country through remote areas like Northland, he said.
Key said at the time that a $15 million boost for anti-drug initiatives was not an admission the Government was losing the war against P.
Read more… P easier to get than weed on the West Coast.
“Westport is being dubbed “Methport” as P takes a hold in the West Coast town.
The annual cannabis haul in the West Coast bush has been trending down over the past decade but P offences have sky-rocketed. Joanne Carroll takes a look at what is happening.
The West Coast has always had a reputation for being the cannabis capital of New Zealand with its isolated communities surrounded by beautiful wild bush in a climate that some say creates ideal growing conditions.
But that reputation is changing as P takes a devastating grip….”
And More still … Video: Welcome to Gisborne, where it’s easier to get P than cannabis
They claim it’s easier to buy a bag of P than it is to get a cannabis tinny, and that addiction is having a flow-on effect in the community.
“Depending on who you know it’s between $550 and $1000 a gram, and in Gisborne we have kids going to school with no lunch,” says former user Tricia Walsh, who was jailed for three years on drug offences.”
The cost to fix P-contaminated houses
Forbes: Everything You’ve Heard About Crack And Meth Is Wrong
More Prohibitionist Lies exposed: ‘Crack baby’ study ends with unexpected but clear result. By Susan FitzGerald, For The Inquirer.
Hell’s Bells! Drugs and Alcohol are being consumed in an Adult manner by the employed masses!
The Child Casualties of the Jihad on Drugs.
Let’s talk rationally about Synthetic Cannabis and how society ought to manage it.
Prohibition fails again. Synthetic Cannabis still here… driven underground. TVNZ
NZ Research finds Synthetic Cannabis Low Risk. The Star Trust.
Dunne fails Drugs Test. Colin Espiner. Sunday Star Times. May 4 2014
“The deeper I delve into the issue, however, the more I am struck by just how frightening the consequences of prohibition are.”
Lizzie Marvelly
Lizzie Marvelly: Prohibition – it should be banned NZ Herald
The war on drugs has failed. Now what?
“The bad news is that there are still some governments that believe drug prohibition is possible. They still insist on continuing a flawed war launched by former President Nixon in the early 1970s. They cling to outdated ideas. They rely more on ideology than evidence. Some of them are simply ignorant to the harms generated by irrational drug policy.
Here are three ways that the war on drugs has fallen short.
First, the war on drugs has utterly failed to reduce the supply of illicit drugs on international markets. Fumigation, eradication, and crop substitution programmes have had almost no effect on aggregate production of cocaine, heroin, or marijuana. In spite of massive investments by the U.S. and others in Bolivia, Colombia and Peru – the countries responsible for almost 100% of cocaine production – coca cultivation is in fact stable over the past decade. If anything, they’ve only succeeded in making life more miserable for poor communities and farmers.
Second, counter-narcotics policies have also been unable to contain transit of drugs from Latin America to North American and European markets. About 90% of the cocaine consumed in the United States comes from Colombia, while 90% of the cocaine used by Europeans is from Peru. Virtually all of this product is transferred through countries in Central America, the Caribbean and South America. Not only has it persisted unabated, but its transfer has also greatly expanded corruption of politicians, customs officials, police and has spread violence and increased consumption throughout these regions….”
‘Thailand is moving closer to decriminalizing meth’
A police officer from the Narcotics Control Board guards bags of methamphetamine pills during a drug destruction ceremony north of Bangkok, Thailand, June 26, 2015. Credit: Athit Perawongmetha/Reuters
“The war on drugs is futile. So why not just decriminalize meth?”
It’s not a sentiment you’d expect from senior officials in any authoritarian country — let alone from a strait-laced army general, draped in medals, who came to power in a coup.
But Thailand’s top law enforcement officer is now pursuing this radical notion with vigor.
He’s talking openly about a potential new diktat, issued by military rulers, that would allow citizens to smoke meth without fearing prison.
“The world has lost the war on drugs,” said Thailand’s Justice Minister Paiboon Khumchaya, according to Reuters. “Not only Thailand.”
These are startling statements in a country that, as it stands, still executes drug traffickers.
The Thai government’s drug policy is quite harsh. After all, in recent decades, the nation’s police have largely mimicked the zealous drug war mindset propagated by the United States.
Yet now, seemingly out of nowhere, this typically rigid junta is spouting soft views on narcotics — namely meth — that fall somewhere to the left of many Colorado stoners.
“This is unprecedented,” says Pascal Tanguay, a Bangkok-based associate with the International Drug Policy Consortium. “They’ve actually been talking about different models from decriminalization to full-fledged legalization.”
Read more Here
Obama’s evil minions still entrenched. Revenge of the Deep State: Andrew Napolitano
Read what Andrew Napolitano has to say about the ‘Revenge of the Deep State’….
“Liberty is rarely lost overnight. The wall of tyranny often begins with benign building blocks of safety — each one lying on top of a predecessor — eventually collectively constituting an impediment to the exercise of free choices by free people, often not even recognized until it is too late.”
Here is the back story.
In the pre-Revolutionary era, British courts in London secretly issued general warrants to British government agents in America. The warrants were not based on any probable cause of crime or individual articulable suspicion; they did not name the person or thing to be seized or identify the place to be searched. They authorized agents to search where they wished and seize what they found.
The use of general warrants was so offensive to our Colonial ancestors that it whipped up more serious opposition to British rule and support for the revolutionaries than the “no taxation without representation” argument did. And when it came time for Americans to write the Constitution, they prohibited general warrants in the Fourth Amendment, the whole purpose of which was to guarantee the right to be left alone by forcing the government to focus on bad guys and prohibit it from engaging in fishing expeditions. But the fishing expeditions would come.
In 1978, Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which was intended to rein in the government spying on Americans that had been unleashed by the Nixon administration. FISA established a secret court and permitted it to issue warrants authorizing spying on agents of foreign governments when physically present in the United States.
People born in foreign countries who are here for benevolent or benign or even evil purposes have the same constitutional protections as those of us born here. That’s because the critical parts of the Constitution that insulate human freedom from the government’s reach protect “persons,” not just citizens. But FISA ignored that…
Read more >Here<
My Commentary…..
Donald Trump does not enjoy the Loyalty of his own party let alone Loyalty from the Titan Buraucratic Machinery he has inherited from his predecessor Barack Obama, for the simple reason that He does not have the same Agenda as Obama implemented as a sycophant of the Status Quo… and the powers that be.
It is an agenda that Hillary Cinton was supposed to perpetuate.
These are the loathsome critters whom inhabit the Swamp Trump promised he would drain.
Obama and Clinton were merely Cogs in the Machine… There are far Greater vested Interests at work in the world.
Though there are many things not to like about Trump… none the less his successful election campaign has been one of the greatest of Spanners thrown into the gears of the Beast machine… and he has many powerful enemies as a result… both within Government and without.
All the vested Interests whom were growing the power of the State and suppressing the Rights and Liberties of the People.
Possibly the greatest threats Trump poses to the One world Order is his campaign promises to restore American Gun Rights that have been eroded… Guns in the hands of the people poses the greatest hurdle to the security of the Wealth and powers of the Status quo in the face of the coming Gigantic Financial collapse of the American Government.
They want to render ‘the Great unwashed’ powerless.
and secondly by Trumps moves to End the Rampant Pseudo-environmentalism with regards to the Scam of Global warming, and other diabolical United Nations Agendas… such as their persecution of Israel.
I remind Kiwis that it was Radical Green extremists whom had teamed up with the radical Racist extremists in the Urawera ranges and were practicing Murder, assignation, and hurling fire bombs… (Read about that here)
Radical Green Extremists are almost as fanatical about the destruction of Freedom as Isis and Al Qaeda!
So too are many of the Super wealthy… who look down upon us as ‘Useless Eaters’.
On another Front Brexit … Britain seeking to extract themselves from the EU is also of great weight… another return to Unilateral Sovereignty another set back to the One world Socialist Government agenda that will not go unchallenged.
The Wailing from the Millions of Dumbfounded Liberal Dip-shits across the globe has been deafening!
They want a Coup!
They want Trump assassinated!
And remember that *These are the hordes that have Zero scruples* when it comes to committing Violence and other crimes in order to fulfill their political aims.
These are the scum that Love using unchecked democracy to impose their oppressive lunatic policies on everyone yet scream blue murder when democracy fails to deliver the power back into *their hands*.
And the Danger for is very real for Trump and his family, and could Spring for virtually any quarter.
Christians ought to Heed Our Apostle Paul…
“I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.”
(1 Tim 2vs 1,2)
These dynamics expose just how far America has drifted await from it’s foundations.
What is being called ‘the Deep state’ … the 9 to 5 bureaucracy is not supposed to be Party agenda driven… let alone have it’s own, but faithful to the constitution, irrespective whom is elected into office… yet clearly they have been as corrupted by excessive power and over-reach and operate as their own vested interest… just as the Police dont want to end the war on Drugs *because of the loss of Power and revenue this will entail.
Thus the Deep state favors tyrannical executives whom grow the Bureaucracy… and enhance their jurisdictions at the expense of the rights and liberties of the people to whose rights they have sworn to protect, and in virtue of which is the only legitimate function for which they exist at all.
Any reforming President must now content with these powerful vested interests that have been allowed to accrue Un-constitutional powers by a sleepy and gullible population that has foolishly devalued their Rights and liberties and instead have been swindled via Government by Fear, Prejudice, and envy.
And this is extremely dangerous… think of 22 November 1963 in Dallas… 1pm
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.
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The Coming American Civil War.
Riders on the Storm! Homeland Security already confiscating guns .
NAPOLITANO: The right to shoot tyrants, not deer
The Second Amendment is the guarantee of freedom…
The right of the people to keep and bear arms is an extension of the natural right to self-defense and a hallmark of personal sovereignty. It is specifically insulated from governmental interference by the Constitution and has historically been the linchpin of resistance to tyranny. Yet the progressives in both political parties stand ready to use the coercive power of the government to interfere with the exercise of that right by law-abiding persons because of the gross abuse of that right by some crazies in our midst.
When Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, he was marrying the nation at its birth to the ancient principles of the natural law that have animated the Judeo-Christian tradition in the West. Those principles have operated as a brake on all governments that recognize them by enunciating the concept of natural rights.
As we have been created in the image and likeness of God the Father, we are perfectly free just as He is. Thus, the natural law teaches that our freedoms are pre-political and come from our humanity and not from the government. As our humanity is ultimately divine in origin, the government, even by majority vote, cannot morally take natural rights away from us. A natural right is an area of individual human behavior — like thought, speech, worship, travel, self-defense, privacy, ownership and use of property, consensual personal intimacy — immune from government interference and for the exercise of which we don’t need the government’s permission.
The essence of humanity is freedom. Government — whether voted in peacefully or thrust upon us by force — is essentially the negation of freedom. Throughout the history of the world, people have achieved freedom when those in power have begrudgingly given it up. From the assassination of Julius Caesar to King John’s forced signing of the Magna Carta, from the English Civil War to the triumph of the allies at the end of World War II, from the fall of communism to the Arab Spring, governments have permitted so-called nobles and everyday folk to exercise more…. Read more >Here<