I have watched a fair chunk of both Rogan and Peterson materials… and have enjoyed a great portion of it all. I believe they both make very valuable and insightful contributions in the realm of thought…yet I am not a sycophant. I give praise when I believe praise is due, yet I will also call out BS when I see it.
Please watch the video below.
Man has been defined as ‘The worshipping Animal’.
The title of this video is misleading in that the question is only relevant if it pertains to Moses and the Bible rather than a generalised ‘Origin of the Religious sense in humanity’ because we have solid evidence that some Pagan religions are born of or at least make use of psychedelics as mystical practices.
But should a person then believe this is a sound explanation for what is written in the bible?
That is the question I want to address… the rest is moot IMO because it is non-contentious.
Drug taking is a fact of human history.
I don’t buy this sort of ‘Rationalist’ speculation of apostate Jewish scholars who deny their own faith (Rogan’s opening statement was that some Rabbis had claimed Moses was trippin).
I would never deny these are questions worth discussing… they clearly are worth it… I don’t have a problem with the questions… I just find Rogan and Peterson’s conclusions… or lack thereof disappointing.
I guess these guys are still wandering in the wilderness.
Picture from here.
It is true that many people have equated psychedelic’s trips to having a religious experience complete with meeting spirit beings.
Indisputably some Psychonauts looking for meaning in life believe they have ‘found’ something real in the psychedelic experience that transcends this material universe (consciousness itself is fundamentally transcendental) . Scientists and psychologists are beginning to appreciate that going on a trip can even bring peace of mind to the terminally ill… alleviating some from the fear of death.
They experience an opening door to greater realities.
Joe Rogan himself talks a lot about this.
In my youth I experienced this very thing too.
I was already a Christian and yet magic mushrooms were mind expanding.
Modern science is today catching up to the many beneficial and therapeutic qualities of Psilocybin.
Contrary to long held phobias and prejudices Magic Mushrooms can be good for the brain and the spirit.
Caveat: Beware! Psilocybin Magic mushroom are currently illegal in New Zealand, and if you ingest a poisonous look-alike that could be a fatal mistake.
One day this will change, and as is the case now in Canada, you will be able to buy safe tripping mushroom’s from the shop.
I recently had a surprising conversation with a old friend who had always been hard of heart when it came to discussion of religion, yet had recently had what she described as a religious experience from a psychedelic trip.
This experience completely shifted her opinion about transcendent reality.
Such experiences may help people to escape the box of materialism yet it is still a long journey to the way, the truth, and the life.
I am hoping my now more open minded friend will look further afield contemplate the bigger questions for which the Bible alone has the Truth.
Her spiritual pilgrimage has only just begun.
I pray God sends her knowledgeable servants to help guide her to the truth.
We all must see the light of truth to be saved. It is one thing for me to know this (I’m alright Jack!), the problem I have is that most of the people I care about are closed off to the possibility that they are lost sinners who need Christ.
Still I must try to reach anyone who is not hard of heart.
Back to Rogan and Peterson. What grinds my gears about these two guys in particular is despite being well aware of a massive corpus of piece-meal facts that are scattered across a broad spectrum of subjects guys like Rogan and Peterson fail to think holistically and refuse to draw the most obvious conclusion about ‘the religion’ of the Bible… from a totality of what is known… that it is based upon *Real events*…. *Empirical facts*.’That is the most obvious conclusion that best fits all the hard corroborating evidence.
Instead they choose to be vain in their imaginations and flog their favorite hobby horses. Rogan likes to attribute stuff to tripping. and Peterson enjoys fabricating overly sophisticated psychological bents that make the great men of the past look like Psyche patients.
This is a well understood penchant of ‘specialists’… their tunnel vision that can only interpret reality through their narrow lens of ‘training’… exposing their bents.
Gullible people mistake their own wild ‘rationalisations’ as being valid excuses for doubting the veracity of the Bible when in reality they are feeble and fail to explain the known facts.
Moses and the Burning Bush from here.
Doctor heal thyself!
I assert the simple truth is that the great famous men of the Bible… Moses, etc had real experiences with God Almighty. Ie The Bible is literally true.
On a psychological level we can appreciate why human beings don’t want to face the simple truth…. because it would call an end to their pet delusions… an existential crisis….
But if you admit to yourself the bible speaks of real events … the moral implications will demand you change you whole outlook on life… and call you to prostrate yourself before the Almighty.
And above all things mans pride and his desire to be his own God prevents him from acknowledging his subjection to the Divine Authority.
What is appealing to people like Rogan about the psychedelic experience is that he can make it mean whatever he wants to believe.
Sinful lost human beings are alien to the truth. They are opposed to it. many will choose to believe almost anything rather than the truth. They cannot bear it.
In this way Human beings are the children of the Devil. This is not freedom but slavery to a lie. This will damn your soul.
As a Christin it is my duty to both God and my fellow man to witness for the Gospel.
Be honest to yourself. Believe the scriptures. The truth will make you free. Look to the Cross of Christ and his resurrection… there our salvation is found… for free.
Space in this post has not allowed me to lay out all the evidence that ought to compel reasonable people into accepting the historical validity of the scriptures.
Please do not be too disappointed about this short fall.
I am aware of it, yet anyone who thinks my failure to provide such a detailed exposition makes my contention a hollow claim is not a reasonable person.
The subject is massive. and involves virtually every branch of knowledge… and this is my main contention against the proposition Rogan and Peterson are making in the featured video. It is naïve.
I will provide links to where an investigation of the facts can be started….
IMO the greatest hurdle for an entrenched Atheist materialist that prevents them from being able to grasp the validity of the Bible is their *Ideological Blindness*… an intellectual incapacity to be able to contemplate for even a moment that Spiritual realities might really exist… and that the Biblical miracles actually happened.
I am not seeking to belittle anyone… I’m pointing out the massive paradigm shift required to be able to honestly consider the alternative view.
I know this from my own prior atheist experience. I know how the Materialist mindset is utterly consumed by weak rationalisations that are fabricated to maintain the Atheist cognitive dissonance.
It is an addictive habit of the mind that most atheists mistake for intelligence and reason.
It is folly!
Materialism is founded upon the archaic and childish delusions of Scientism… a belief that empirical science can (and does)explain everything.
This is an untenable position in 2023.
“Seek and ye shall find.”
The first step to seeking the light must be an opening of the mind.
A large portion of my work published on Eternal Vigilance Blog is laying out the case for Christianity and Biblical faith. I am not a great writer, yet the hundreds of posts I have done on a broad spectrum of issues form my testimony as to why I believe the Bible is true. Thus I point to them as an archive of evidence to support my claims I am making today. Anyone with a seeking heart might do worse than to spend some time following links I post below.
A final word…
When I dabbled in psychedelics I never met any spirit beings, yet as I said above I was a wayward Christian.
I wonder if that kept them at bay?
I do not encourage anyone to take drugs, and posit the long held warning that Christians have historically associated ‘Phamikea’ with Sorcery and Witchcraft… which is understandable given the Pagan usage of psychedelics.
The Bible instead promotes the Sober mind.
And if the assertions of the Christians are correct in these matters, the spirit beings encountered while tripping could be dangerous Demons pretending to be Angels of light… and I suspect that is the case.
Before I was a Christian, in my late Teens I did have an experience… It is called ‘Entity Attack syndrome’… historically called Incubus/ Succubus encounter, yet modern rationalists call it ‘Sleep paralysis’ … my account of that can be found here…
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See also…. “One of the things we’re exploring is like, why don’t we just mutate it [COVID] ourselves so we could create — preemptively develop new vaccines, right? So, we have to do that. If we’re gonna do that though, there’s a risk of like, as you could imagine — no one wants to be having a pharma company mutating f**king viruses,”
” Big government can’t grow without weak men”.
^ The ‘He’… is Andrew Tate… she is talking about how he was raided after he had a social media dust up with NWO poster girl Greta Thunberg.
The system needs to ‘castrate’ men so that they do not resist their growing tyranny.
‘Follow the science where ever it leads’
The video below contains some valuable insights’
It catalogues the process whereby a sincere man who believed all the platitudes about ‘science based medicine’ the Gates funded WHO Globalists used in their Covid 19 vax agenda is eventually ‘Red pilled’.
Following the evidence it dawns on him the facts of reality contradict everything he believed to be true.
He wakes up to the fact that he has been played.
Please watch the video.
Youtube censored the video!
Here it is on a different streaming platform…(below)
“Looking back do I wish I had questioned all these leading experts more… do I wish I had questioned the leading scientific Journals more… at the time it would have been unthinkable *Now* I actually feel naïve for not questioning them more.
Lets say if certain people have been ‘economical with the truth about this… have they been economical with the truth about other important aspects of the pandemic? ”
My apologies if I misled people in 2020…
Personally I wish I had not been as trusting of the scientific authorities and scientific publications in 2020…”
Dr John Campbell
This is an excellent example of how well intending honest thinking people can at first assume an erroneous position, then are compelled to have a change of heart as they become aware of new contrary facts.
The truth tends to leak out eventually… even when deceivers work like demons to keep their secrets from being known.
It is only a matter of time before good men realise they have erred.
Good men will boldly modify their stance, others of lesser character will remain committed to falsehood at all cost.
Moral integrity entails not simply standing fast against an evil tide but also being willing to abandon even long held cherished positions in the name of personal progress and enlightenment when truth calls.
Failure to reform is as immoral as as failure to hold fast when truth demands one or the other.
Dr John Campbell’s Youtube channel has 2.6 million subscribers and as such he has much to loose from publicly expressing where ‘the evidence’ has now led him, and what conclusions he is forced to draw from it.
We can see from the timeline of his posts he has shifted from the naïve and passionate supporter of the Official Covid 19 narrative to that of bewildered, ‘disappointed’ (covertly angry) critic.
Like so many ‘Red Pilled’ Youtubers Dr Campbell has for months been ‘treading carefully’… hedging his words, etc as by switching from stalwart advocate of the official agenda to becoming a critic he is in danger of censorship and losing his Youtube channel.
The virtue of transformation level intellectual integrity is sadly lacking in humanity.
On weighty contentious matters far more people tend towards the vise of willful cognitive dissonance as they do not desire the truth to be true.
For various reasons they choose to deny it’s veracity.
Often they have financial investments or social status dependent upon them maintaining the lie, their ego may not allow themselves to admit they are in error, the capacity to appologise for any harm they might have caused is beyond them.
Most of all they don’t even have the integrity to admit even to themselves the inner thought processes by which they choose to remain on the dark side.
It is truly a marvelous thing when a soul is driven by conscience to step out of line for the sake of the truth.
Important note: Now that he can see the swindle he still does not have the freedom to speak openly about it. Like so many other content creators he now can only ‘hint’ at certain implications and he has had to take down videos from Youtube or risk losing his channel.
You can usually find these censored videos on other free speech platforms like Rumble and other places.
P.S. Test of Free Thinking. 1.0
In the feature video we see Dr Campbell wrestling with himself as he looks for solutions to how he could have avoided falling victim to the grand deception that foisted the mass vaccination of the entire human race.
He openly discusses his thought processes which caused him to go along with the corrupt Official agenda, and points out the bad actors.
With the genius of hindsight he laughs at the incredulity that profit driven Pharmaceutical Giants ‘mark their own homework’ and that Acidemia and the scientific community puts money ahead of scientific competence and integrity and that all this has overthrown the whole idea of ‘Evidence based medicine’.
The whole system is geared to protect status quo vested interests instead of scientific truth.
Health advice and medicines that cannot be turned to corporate profit are disqualified from investigation and therefore can never reach ‘Evidence based’ status.
Anyone who insists on promoting ‘unsanctioned/unprofitable/ self help’ practices (like taking Vitamin D) is systematically expelled from the medical fraternity, and Media hounds bay for their deplatforming as spreaders of ‘dangerous misinformation’.
And yet he has not yet figured out how to solve this crisis… he speaks of ‘a restoration of trust’.
‘Rouge Scientist’… the producer of this Campbell commentary video correctly points out that it was a misguided trust in these authorities that got Campbell in this mess in the first place!
Because the system controlling what may be deemed to be ‘evidence based medicine’ is absolutely corrupted, this means Free thinking Truth seekers must be prepared to look outside this paradigm for *The real science* that may be able to save lives and relieve misery yet for which there exists no way for Pharmaceutical companies to profiteer.
Never forget Pharmaceutical Corporations are notorious fraudsters and have a vested interest to keep humanity in the dark about the efficacy of natural cures and alternative treatments to their own wares.
I mention Ivermectin and Vitamin D as two examples with respect to Covid 19.
The right for New Zealanders to make their own health choices is written into the New Zealand Bill of rights.
Not only is this a right that The Ardern regime contravened, it is also a Moral imperative for every citizen to take command of their own health responsibilities and decisions, and to do this everyone must insure they are informed about what is the truth… not socially corralled and conditioned into compliance.
A test of freethinking. 2.0
It has been said a sign of intelligence is the ability to step into another mans shoes to perceive the world through their eyes… without the necessity of believing their stance to be correct.
This is important because only then can you claim to accurately understand what that person is trying to communicate to you… rather than superimposing your own presumptions upon them… which is the habit of opinionated fools.
Entrenched errors are fortified in heavy defensive structures that resist exposure to the light.
Back in the late 80s I myself had to face a supremely confronting realisation that could have gone either way dependent upon my own courage.
I am referring to making the decision to abandon Atheism, and make known my belief in the Bible and Jesus Christ.
For me to do this was extremely distasteful… because I did not like Christians… or subordinating my desires to religion as my whole life was given over to vise.
All my friends were Heathens too, and you know what contempt heathens have for Christians.
These are powerful subliminal psychological bents that prevent millions of otherwise intelligent people from being able to honestly contemplate the notion that the bible could possibly be true.
It is an absolutely alien conception of reality.
It was supremely difficult for me to give any credence to what Christians claimed to be true.
Like Dr Campbell with regards to his original enthusiasm for Covid 19 vaccines… for him ‘to question the authorities’ was ‘unthinkable’… so too to question ‘the authorities/rationale’ upon which most atheists ground their atheism is just as ‘unthinkable’… and for most they are trapped in a prison of cognitive dissonance’.
In truth I shudder at the miracle that I was ever freed from my powerful conviction that Atheism was well established as fact.
I can only say the God brought me to enough knowledge of the facts of the Bible, and exposed enough of the dubious claims of the Atheists for me to be able to make a choice one way or another… and I believe God does this with everyone of us… and yet many chose to remain in the dark… and deeper and deeper into the darkness they wander… lost forever… never admitting to themselves they have chosen this state of being for themselves.
It is not reality. Light does exist. They have simply turned their backs to it.
Years ago I blogged my testimony of my conversion to Christianity from Militant Atheism calling it…
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UK’S PARLIAMENT: PUPPET MP TRIES TO PREVENT PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO MASS COVID 19 VACCINATION. NEW ZEALAND SINGLED OUT FOR ARDERN’S FAILURE AND TYRANNICAL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, AND GIVING 16 YEAR OLDS THE VOTE.