Tolerating Public Nudity. A Christian asks… Should Porn be allowed on X?

Christian X user asks the question… “Should Porn be allowed on this platform?”

Public nudity in a free and civil society has always been a contentious issue. Even the discussion of Sex is contentious.

As a Libertarian Christian I have defended the rights of Sex workers, and Public parades such as ‘Boobs on Bikes’ from Oppressive Councils and laws that were under pressure to prohibit these things largely from Christian activist lobby groups.

Some people will wonder how as a Christian I might take such a position? I take that position because I believe in a separation of church and state, and I do not like Christianity and the bible being used as a bludgeon to persecute sinners and infidels. I believe that to be absolutely Unchristian, and also a corruption of the Law… and a violation of individual rights.

Many anti-freedom people think that by taking the side of prostitutes that I am endorsing prostitution, yet that is false. I do not want anyone (man or woman) to prostitute themselves, yet that does not mean I therefore should support laws against them.

I believe In liberty.. as a Libertarian Christian we have far more hope of saving people from prostitution if we show love for them rather than hateful oppression. Christians can still work to reduce prostitution via the gospel… which is the true Christian way to battle sin and improve the world…. all under freedom.

Now I said all this here to give context to the question raised above. Porn in Western society may be construed as being anything from showing a nipple… to full on Sex. I personally am not bothered by the former being allowed in public yet would be very bothered by the latter… so even Libertarian Tim thinks there must be a line drawn *somewhere*.

Myself… applying the principle of Equality before the law when supporting ‘Boobs parades in Hamilton’ was that if men are allowed to walk topless down the street so too should woman be lawfully allowed to. Instead of allowing woman to do so, we could instead simply create a new prohibition against men having bare chests…. yet is this the best direction for society… less freedom… more laws/rules/punishments? It’s obvious to me thats the wrong direction to take society… that leads to what is happening in the Islamic world with Burkas and Beard police.

The truth is Christians need to be tolerant of others who do not share *all* the same values and sentiments we do… yet who are still peaceful and civil. Ie seeing a boob on the street you may find offensive (I don’t) but is certainly does not violate any of your rights!

If we were to apply that to social media platforms and boobs were allowed… then anyone offended by it could scroll past that post… and even block the sender of the post…. thereby *self policing* their own content without imposing their views on others. And this is how a free and civil society really works. Tolerance… and Individuals taking responsibility for their own moral standards rather than expecting the government to act like the Taliban.

X could set up an ‘R18’ tab (maybe they already do) and users could click that tab to prevent any R18 content appearing in their feed. They probably already do this… I’m not sure. I’m fairly certain most x users don’t want explicit porn turning up in their feed, yet I’m sure the odd boob pick from a chick on the back of a motor cycle does not bother too many people????

Ultimately such questions are for the Platforms themselves to figure out… yet if they get it wrong It would impact on their User satisfaction and cause people to leave. Lets say X allowed nudity yet not explicit sex acts… at first some millions who cant handle the sight of a boob to leave. That would be an expected cost. yet eventually those numbers would recover and users would just take such stuff in their stride like adults. And personally speaking I think that is progress… an escape from the petty legalistic prudish attitudes that still support Legal oppression under the guise of Christian virtue.

If nudity was allowed on X that would not mean Christians could no longer maintain their own virtues. They might face more ‘temptation’… yet it would be up to them to overcome that as all Christian ought. Ironically It’s the more Pious types that have the most problem when confronted with a boob! Everyone else just laughs… or scrolls past.

That’s my 5 cents. 🙂

Tim Wikirwihi.
Christian Libertarian.

More from Tim…

Standing up for Justice more important than Personal Ambitions

Babes and Ball Crushers.

Feminism, Lisa Lewis, and the death of romance.

True Christian Modus Operandi. Jesus Loves Porn Stars.

Hell is for the Self Righteous, Heaven is for Sinners.

Sick Puppies.

Geoffrey Palmer and the Rape Culture of Socialist Government. Teaching Liberals the Principle of Consent

The War is over…Neo-Feminism is a Sex Cult.

Te Pati Maori abuse the Haka and Devalue it’s Mana.

Te Pati Maori Radicals are a different breed of politician that only succeeds because of the apartheid electoral system which allows them to have no concerns about what the general public think about them. They don’t have to appeal to the general public to get elected. They only have to pander to the interests of a select section of the whole population and they gear their antics to that mindset… they are actors and performance artists… ‘let me sing you the song of my people’… type stuff.
The one thing these radicals fear *is a general referendum* because then… unlike the elections… there fate will be determined by *the general population* whom they have spent their careers slandering and poking their Tongues and Fingers at.
Binding referendums are a dangerous tool upon which there needs to be clear limits, yet *When a truly democratic process is allowed to take place… Their Politics is doomed*.
The only reason a referendum is called for on this issue is because Parliament is too feeble to make a sound judgement for the well being of the General public. The Law to rid New Zealand of every racist institution would never pass via parliament yet it is guaranteed to pass by popular referendum… which shows just how *non-representative* parliaments are when they are filled with unprincipled woke socialist Boneheads and cowards.
On this issue Seymour stands head and shoulders above the rest because his bill is founded upon Just and reasonable principles.
Not a single cogent nuanced argument has been leveled against his bill. (I can think of several arguments myself that would work far better than anything opposition MP have tabled)… and look at how pathetic Luxons rationale is as to why he is instructing National to oppose the bill!
Its yet another example of the shame and cowardice of the entire National party Caucus. If I was a National party MP I would lead a challenge against Luxon for this and I would refuse to reject the bill.

As for the haka…
There are already rules for behavior in the house. They just need to be enforced.
One thing is certain… The antics of Te Pati Maori in parliament have hurt the mana of the Haka in the eyes of the international community.
They are getting sick of it… they don’t appreciate it… and there is no valid reason why they should.

The Haka has been abused and this is sad.
I believe the haka has great value for New Zealanders when it is used at appropriate times… Less is more…. more is less. ‘More’ devalues it.
What the Maori Party did in parliament was blatant abuse.
Two Maori were contending in the house for their side of the debate. One behaved with Civility and made reasonable arguments. The other had no arguments but instead broke out into a frenzy and created a spectacle.
IMO one Maori (David Seymour) represents a modern day Maori of Mana and enlightenment… a man of Reason.
The other Maori (Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke) represents a delusion. A regressive caricature … trapped in the past… of a savage Age in which War and violence were how disputes were settled rather than via Reason and the rule of law.

So of these two Maori… which exemplifies a role model we would want today’s young Maori to emulate and aspire to be like?
The Savage or the Statesman?

When asked why she had broken out in the haka Hana said “that is all I know… to be Maori”.
That speaks a thousand words as to why she is unfit to be in parliament!
‘That is all she knows’…. and *That* is what she thinks *being Maori entails!* She’s absolutely delusional!
She has no vision for Maori to progress out of the trap of Maori radicalism by which Maori are expected to see themselves as noisy irrational savages locked in perpetual tribal warfare.
*Her only skill set is performance art*
*Her only politics is the politics of Race, victimism, and graft*
No wonder most Maori don’t vote Te Pati Maori.

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.

Genetically Modified Organisms Not wanted in New Zealand’s Environment or Food.

The following revelations were posted on X.

FSANZ (Food Standards Australia and New Zealand) is proposing to end any requirement for labelling certain foods which have been genetically modified.

In brief, foods that they judge through various technical criteria are ‘substantially equivalent’ to natural foods will no longer be labelled as such or even referred to as ‘genetically modified’.

Read: Urgent: Government Plans To Remove Gene Food Labelling

“In essence, the regulations will be accommodating the commercial biotechnology food sector ensuring that they will no longer be required to label many gene modified foods. In other words, the public will be left in the dark about the GM origin of a wide range of foods and thereby denied their right of choice.”

My commentary (reply)

@actparty
I’m a Libertarian. Understand this… *We the people* of New Zealand have the right to demand any product containing GM organisms be clearly labeled.
That does not violate Free trade. It protects against subversion and trickery.

The big question is why *certain interests* would want to hide such a declaration?

It’s obvious who those interests are…. *The Mega corporations* … and why do they want license to operate in the dark?

Because they know *Consumers* don’t want GM Products! Ie Consumers will not willingly prefer GM food over Natural food if they can tell the difference!

So this is about deceiving the consumers… for the sake of Mega corporations and their Patented GM Crap!

Furthermore… *on the basis of property rights* We New Zealanders do not consent to GM Crops being grown here in NZ *because You cannot guarantee the GM organisms will not escape into the wider environment…. contaminating the property and crops of others who do not want GM organisms on their farms or in their food!

Therefore it is upon Libertarian first principles that I demand the Government Prohibit all GM organisms unless they are grown under such conditions that guarantees they will not contaminate the property or crops of others.
The Big corporations want the people to sacrifice their rights just so they can make a fortune without bearing full responsibility for the risks their activities cause to others.

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Politicians are too easily corrupted by Corporations.
Too often Politicians are one track minded… easily duped by pseudoscience… and willing to trample on the rights of the little people for what they perceive as economic gain.
All too often Politicians serve the Profiteering interests of Corporations over the rights of the people whom they are elected to serve.
One of the most blatant forms this has been taking in recent times is attempts by governments to prevent people growing their own food at home.
By attacking Home grown food this threatens the Store of Seeds held by the general public and their ability to feed themselves in hard times.
It causes them to become dependent upon Big Food.
Patented GM products has almost nothing to do with the betterment of humanity and everything to do with *Ownership of verities of food crops for profit*
Property rights is the strongest defense against such a scheme as unless corrupt politicians allow corporations to spread their mutant strains without proper safeguards… It would cut into the profitability of such crops if they had to be grow under stringent conditions that prevented escape into the wider environment.

Here’s the thing… Mr. Big Food… If you can grow your crap without affecting the property of others and their GM Free Crops… and if you clearly label your products… full disclosure and are able to get them to market and sell them … ie you have a customer base… All will be well and good, yet if your operation threatens neighboring farmers and you must hide the fact your produce has GMs to sell it at the market…. then you can go fly a kite!
The viability of your GM Crops must factor in the rights of others *who were here first*.

I’ve had a guts full of constant encroachments upon self-reliance and healthy foods.
Monsanto and other Mega corporations can Bugger off as far as I’m concerned.
We esp don’t want Bill Gates fake Meats!
New Zealanders don’t need their crap.
We can grow Clean Natural foods.
That’s what New Zealanders want for our kids, and by keeping our produce 100% GMO Free we can supply the global market for others who want the same for themselves and their kids.
Big Food needs to grasp the fact that Junk Food is no longer wanted.
The world wants God’s Natural goodness.
This is why corporations don’t want to declare their GM produce.
We can not allow them to hide their crap in our food.

Propaganda would say that the desire to have clean natural food is a ‘Luddite’ anti-science mentality.
Satan laughing spreads his wings…

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.

Update: 30-11-24.

On a related topic… Bill Gates ‘additive’ to Cows feed for the purpose of reducing Methane release via Burps and farts… We read that The UK has approved his product yet do not require foods manufactured from such cows to be labeled the product is from ‘treated herds’… thereby keeping the general public in the dark about what’s in their food.
This is a disgrace! Yet again we see a government taking the side of the Mega rich… against the interests of the people/ consumers who might avoid this additive if they had the means to differentiate Milk, butter, cheese etc that does not contain it.
This highlights the urgent need for us here in New Zealand to keep our produce clean, and Natural… as this will give us an advantage in the market places of the world for those who don’t want Bill Gates weird funk in their food.
You might think they would happily label their products as being from ‘Low emissions dairy herds’… to appeal to the Cult Of Environmentalism and Climate hysteria. The Truth however is The world is growing wary of Processed foods and skeptical about the legitimacy and safety of human interventions, Vaccinations of cattle, hormones, drenches, etc etc with a strong trend towards preference for ‘Organic’ produce.
It’s corrupt that governments are prepared to collaborate with ‘Big Food’ in deceiving and disempowering the voting public… robbing them of their personal choice and preferences when it comes to one of their most essential aspects of their lives… their food!
Again this is Totalitarian socialism at work… shoving their government sanctioned politically correct garbage down citizens throats… by stealth.!
God knows what effects this will have on Cattle and consumers. We can be sure this was all ‘fast tracked’ through the system (just like the Cov jabs were) without proper normal safety protocols being adhered to ‘in the name of urgency because of the impending ‘climate catastrophe’. It’s a risk (with our lives and the well being of cattle) these lunatic Politicians are willing to take!
Eat you Porridge Slaves… nom nom nom!

Update: 1-12-24.
British public backlash has begun!

Kamala Harris is a Sock Puppet! That She is the Democratic Party Nomination for US President is some sort of Cosmic Joke.

How is it possible that someone as ridiculous as Kamala Harris is the Democratic Party Nomination for President???

It’s like they want to loose!!!
Either that or they are 1000% going to steal the election… and so they are not worried by the fact that she is a buffoon!

I mean they managed to install the other senile idiot Biden in office even though Trump attained record votes… and they managed to make it virtually a crime to question the results of the 2020 Elections!
It Beggared Belief that Biden was Pres… yet Harris is one of the few people in the USA who is even less competent for the Job than Sleepy Joe.

This Blog post has no other function that to express just how incredulous it is that the world awaits this US Election… and the possibility that this complete and utter MORON Kamala Harris could become Leader of the most powerful ‘Country’ on Earth.

I had to write this Blog post to capture the insanity of the hour…
This is a moment of Insanity in World history.

Even if she does not win… even if Trump manages such a massive landslide victory… too big to rig… the fact that Biden and Harris could make it to the pinnacle of the Political Ladder shows us something is seriously broken with the US System of democracy… and that something is the absolute Rotten-ness of the Democratic Party.
They have made an absolute mockery of The United States.

George Soros, The Dems, and the WEF are going to steal the US elections for Kamala Harris.
Of this we can be 99.9% certain.
They will go about it in a far more sophisticated way so as to make it look like Harris Beat Trump fair and square.

Why should we expect anything different from 2020?

I hope with all my heart a miracle happens and somehow Trump is not defrauded for the second time yet I just don’t see the Satanic Globalists allowing the American people to put him back in office. The Big Steal is already in full swing…

From X…. “BREAKING: Lancaster, Pennsylvania officials have BUSTED a large-scale fraudulent voter registration scheme that includes thousands of applications with the same handwriting, fake signatures, false addresses, etc….”

They discovered the same scheme in other Pennsylvania counties.

The possibility of assassination is extremely high… it’s almost certain they will try again.

May The Lord protect Donald Trump and may his grace and longsuffering continue upon this Earth for yet another generation. By God’s grace we will defeat the WEF attempting to set up the Satanic Kingdom of the Antichrist.
The Devil worshipping Globalist pedophiles and Traitors trying to destroy Western prosperity and civilisation can all go to hell!
Not on our watch you demons!!!!
Wrong Bet!
We are not deceived!
We know the truth and will defend it!
Give me Liberty… or Death!

In the Spirit of the founding fathers of America we defy those who would enslave our world and our children!

All Free Peoples in every nation are united in the principles of Independence, National sovereignty, Limited democratic government, Free Speech, Equality before the Law, Religious liberty, The Rights of Individuals, Individual bodily autonomy, Private property, Free Enterprise, voluntary Social responsibility, Freedom, Live and let live.
By God’s Grace we appeal unto heaven.
Let that 0.1% of hope be realised.

I am reminded of Tom Paine’s… ‘The Crisis’.

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.

Don’t Forget Jacinda Arden’s lies…

The voting public so easily forget and slip into apathy… They are so easily gaslighted. These are some of the most exploited truths by corrupt demagogues.
This is why Kamala Harris can run for President claiming to having been a tough advocate of border control when the truth is herself and Biden are responsible for the mass invasion of the US by systematic illegal immigration funded by George Soros.
It’s also why Harris and Walz are posing in the run up to the election as ‘Gun enthusiasts’ when we know their full intention is to overthrow the 2nd amendment.
In New Zealand Winston Peters was able to dupe thousands of Freedom voters into voting for him despite the fact that he was the man responsible for putting Ardern in power!
That is how easily he was able to subvert people from voting for the true Freedom Movement.
Wake TF up people!
Snap out of your 5 minute attention span!
Grow a pair and be prepared to suffer a bit for the sake of your so-called values.
As Tom Paine said in ‘The Crisis’…
“Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.”

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

more from Tim….

Commentary of the Month! Michael Laws Exposes the Irony in Jacinda Ardern’s Kindness & Empathy Mission: The Platform.

Snapshot of Ardern’s Demon….

Tucker Carlson: ‘One of the world’s most Appalling Leaders, Jacinda Ardern Quits.’ Good Riddance!

Jacinda Ardern Pilloried in International Press as Authoritarian Psychopath for calling Free speech ‘a weapon of war’.

Making Ardern Go Away! 30-10-21. Large Anti-lockdown/Vax mandates protest in Hamilton (and elsewhere). New Zealanders have had enough and Demand their Freedom and Rights back!

Jacinda Ardern’s Contempt For New Zealanders Who Will Not Submit. Ardern’s Economic Destruction Of Our Nation, And The Rising Of Resistance Against Her..

How Manufactured Fear Turns Society Against Minorities and Individuals. The Jackboots of Jacinda Ardern.

Jacinda Ardern is more Dangerous than Covid-19: Censorship and Control of the Press.

Russell Brand Posits the question… What is sovereignty predicated upon?

Russell Brand On X today.

My answer… off the cuff…
There are several levels of ‘Sovereignty’.
The most essential one’s being God’s Divine Sovereignty and from this Individual sovereignty.
Individual sovereignty is a vital concept for Human Freedom which is only possible from a theistic foundation in which the Human Individual is imbued with Inalienable rights to life and Liberty.
The fundamental argument being we are given our lives and Freedom directly from God Almighty and it is Theft for governments, or anyone to rob us of our God given life and freedom.
We Free Men then can form a National government which derives it’s *National sovereignty* from a collective of our individual sovereignty and right to form a government. The Government in this way is *Not sovereign*… but the servant of the Sovereign people.
Yet still the people cannot imbue their government with any greater rights or authority than they posses *as individuals*…. therefore no collective of people have the right to create a government that tramples upon the God given rights of Individuals or minorities. No such legitimate power exists.
Therefore the Government must be strictly limited in it’s power, scope, and function leaving the Individuals with their Liberty to follow their own consciences… practice their own faith…. exercise their own values… the only condition being they respect the rights of others to do the same thing… and that their actions do not transgress the rights of others. This is where such things as Private property and free speech are essential rights. Private property is where we may practice our faith. Free speech being distinguished from violence means we can speak out minds and openly evangelise our faith and political opinions… which even if others do not like them or causes them offence… do not constitute violence and so do not violate others rights… and as such are lawful.
Atheism has no foundation for the sovereignty of individuals… no foundation for individual rights in fact no foundation for objective morality at all.
Famously The atheist Jeremy Bentham called rights ‘Nonsense on stilts’.
Atheist Hobbes said their is no higher power than *Might*…. The Leviathan state.

This is why under the atheist materialist paradigm there is no defense against *The sovereign State* which then can treat individuals in any way they see fit.
This is the Atheist Marxist conception whereby Individuals can be sacrificed for the sake of the Collective… The State. There are no Higher Moral Principles by which The All powerful State can be deemed to be Evil. In The Marxist consception… whatever serves the benefit of the Party State is moral* …. That’s Lenin.
so you have a choice… God and Human Rights vs Atheist Nihilism and the subordination of human beings to absolute power.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

More from Tim…

Tim Wikiriwhi’s Submission to the New Zealand Government’s Constitutional Review. 2013

Materialism renders Man Nought. Meaning-less, Value-less, Right-less

Protestant Christianity had a Baby… Libertarianism.

The sinking of the HMNZS Manawanui: NZ Government comes under heat for Woke ‘Diversity hire policies’.


Photo from an excellent X post by The Sanity Retention Institute @SanityRetention here

NZ Minister of Defense Judith Collins is Livid that on line social media commentary has been zeroing in on the fact that the commander of the HMNZS Manawanui was hired to fulfill the Navy’s Woke ‘Diversity and inclusion’ policies that has seen a number of top positions filled with woman.
Collin’s is a typical powertriper who want’s to tell the public what they should think.
She certainly does not appreciate the Governments PC Hiring policies being put in the spotlight after the loss of a 150 million dollar Navy Ship.

It has been reported here by Author John McLean that in recent times The Navy has made a big deal about inclusivity of woman… Yvonne Grey not only being a woman but also a lesbian, yet now that disaster has struck Judith Collins seeks to red herring the NZ public by pretending that any critisism of the Navy’s hire policies are false and ‘extremely mysogynistic’.
Collins denies Diversity hire was a thing in the Navy… she insisted Grey was awarded the position on merit.


Screen shot from an excellent opinion piece by Redbaiter on X
Watch the video and read the commentary…. It is just one of many excellent opinion pieces that have been written on this very embarrassing sinking of the NZ Navy Vessel.

She even claims such Misogynistic online abuse has resulted in ‘Woman in uniforms are being abused on the streets!
Really?
This smacks of total Bullshit to me!
As for any possibly false wild speculations going on on line… IMO that is *Her Fault* for not being up front about what happened!
We should not have to wait for a ‘court of inquiry’ to hear the basic testimony about what occurred!

Further more… and this is the truly *1984* part of Collins comments…. she made it clear that she (the government) took the trouble of ‘investigating’ people who made negative comments on social media about the Wreak!
The EVIL EYE of the State now turns upon us if we dare express opinions they don’t like!
That’s Stalinism… North Korea China type tyranny type stuff whereby the want a population too scared to critisise them!

As for denying ‘Diversity hire’ is a thing in the Navy who the hell is she trying to kid? We all know and see that Woke travesty being implemented in government and the private sector… all day every day!
People who have been consciously selected for positions on the basis of their ethnicity or Sex.
If the people are now suspicious that the Captain of the Vessel was one of those sorts of ‘diversity hires’ well that isn’t because they are *Misogynistic* but because we know that is a policy of Idiot organisations today so they can virtue signal and appear woke and not be accused of being bigoted.


The stricken HMNZS Manawanui. Samoa. Reports say 200 000 liters of fuel has been spilled into the ocean. Photo from here

An excellent critique of Defense minister Collins patent gaslighting was published by Counterspin Media NZ on X here
Diversity hire is Navy policy.

Excerpt… ” And while Collins has insisted that various women in positions of leadership within the NZDF have been appointed based on merit, rather than diversity quotas, a little digging destroys that claim.

In 2023 for instance, an OIA request (attached) was made to the NZDF in regards to gender equality, which is most interesting…

According to the NZDF OIA response, the organsiation adopted the principles of the UNITED NATIONS WOMEN’S EMPOWERMENT PRINCIPLES (WTF?!) after being invited by the ‘NZ Women’s Empowerment Principles Committee’ to do so.

The rainbow warriors at the NZDF also attached a ‘Champions of Gender Equality Charter’ to the OIA. The fact that they even have a document like that goes to show just how ‘woke’ and infected with cultural Marxism the organisation has become.

It is also worth remembering that circa 2016, the NZDF went about changing job titles to remove the word ‘man’ from them, (for e.g. from ‘General List Seaman’ to ‘General List Warfare’) in order to be seen as modern and progressive.”

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So there you have it! Diversity hire is Navy policy!

Yet let’s pause for a moment.
What if Grey really was the most competent applicant for the position of Commander?
Even so… She may indeed be worthy, yet when ‘Diversity hire’ is a thing you destroy any faith the public can have that she was hired on merit.
Diversity hire puts things like Sex, and race high up the list of criteria for hiring staff. It is well known it skews the employment process and means competence can place second to diversity quotas.
And if Equality for woman really is the ideal then she must be prepared to weather the storm of public scrutiny and guile the same as if a man was at the helm. Collins reaction is typical of Feminists who play the victim mentality whenever they are held to the flame!
* She is the one playing the sexist card here*.
Rabid feminism!

*We know you are full of crap
@JudithCollinsMP *


Take a look at this Feeble PC Beta Male leading our Navy here
This is what’s left after all the so called ‘Toxic Masculinity’ has been squeezed out!

As for the so-called ‘Official investigation’ Should New Zealanders have confidence???
Not Likely! John McLean says… “The Inquiry seems to be organised so that the Navy can protect its own back as well as its policies, including – and especially – the criteria for promotion in this ever more feminine (and feminist) service. As Peter Cresswell pointed out on his Not PC Blog “An inquiry by the Navy about the Navy doesn’t give confidence that we’ll ever know much more”.

” the Navy has compounded the problem by appointing as chair of the Inquiry into the disaster yet another person who can only too easily be perceived to be another of its over-promoted women – in this case Commodore Melissa Ross, who also ticks the boxes that seem to be more and more important in naval promotions – in her case being both female and part-Maori…

So passionate is she about the importance of promoting women in the Navy (apparently because they are women rather than on merit) that the Navy website of 6 December, 2019, stated of her: “She is passionate about the development of women in the military and was co-chair of the N.Z. Defence Force’s Women’s Development Steering Group, which she helped create”.

How could anyone have faith in such an Inquiry, headed by one who appears to be so fanatically committed to her fellow female officers as to bring her objectivity into doubt? Commodore Ross is the very last person who should be involved in an inquiry into the sinking of the Manawanui.

The New Zealand Navy is a small affair where everybody knows everybody else and that is especially true of the coterie of powerful female officers who all seem to be of the same stripe – of advancing women (and covering up for them?) at the expense of men. Obviously Melissa Ross and Yvonne Gray know each other – probably very well. If a litigant in court is known to the judge, that is always pointed out and the judge will normally remove himself from the case. So why not follow this rule for the naval Inquiry?”

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So Judith Collins must think the New Zealand Public are gullible idiots to expect us to have faith in such a farcical investigation!
As if the findings will ever call into question the employment processes that led to Yvonne Grey’s appointment as Commander of the Vessel.
We the people of New Zealand have the right to question the impact the Woke politicized Diversity hire is having on the quality of performance by our Navy!
Obviously placing Politically correct quotas ahead of Competence is a massive Fools game that risks many peoples lives!

My Message to Judith (She was tagged into my X Commentary) is Stop treating New Zealanders like naughty children and release the preliminary information you have on your desk!
Answer the fundamental questions such as was the vessel drifting or under power when it hit!
Stop the stone walling and obfuscation!
Until you do that… until you give us some facts…. do us a favour… if you don’t like what’s being said on line … just scroll past!
Rumours, speculations, and falsehoods love a vacuum… you are responsible for that.
The longer you dither about the more the suspicions grow.
And we have the right to discuss these matters and draw our own conclusions.
Do you get that?
Probably not.
And for goodness sake get Impartial Investigators on to this so that we get real answers… and so the people of NZ can have confidence that we will hear the truth.

As John McLean States… “For an Inquiry to be credible in should be headed by the Judge Advocate of the Armed Forces with two others: one from Britain’s Royal Navy and the other from the Royal Australian Navy. Only then could the public, whose taxes have to pay for a $130 million replacement vessel, have confidence in the outcome of the Inquiry. The choice of Melissa Ross to head it is yet another example of Judith Collins’ notoriously bad judgement.”
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That seems like a reasonable expectation to me.
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

The sinking of the Manawanui. WHEN WILL THE NAVY EVER LEARN? By John McLean.


The Doomed HMNZ Manawanui . 6 October. Samoa. Photo from here

WHEN WILL THE NAVY EVER LEARN?

By John McLean, author of “A Mission of Honour; The Royal Navy in the Pacific, 1769-1997”.

In my article of a couple of days ago on the HMNZS Manawanui disaster, entitled “Is The Navy Fit For Purpose?”, I raised the issue of the perceived over-promotion of minority groups in the services at the expense of the efficiency of our defence forces.

Speculation is rife throughout the country as in both general conversation and on social media (usually a truer reflection of opinion than the mainstream media) the suspicion is that the captain of HMNZS Manawanui, Commander Yvonne Gray, was over-promoted because she ticked the boxes of being both female and lesbian.

Instead of facing this issue and providing some facts to rebut such a presumption the Navy has compounded the problem by appointing as chair of the Inquiry into the disaster yet another person who can only too easily be perceived to be another of its over-promoted women – in this case Commodore Melissa Ross, who also ticks the boxes that seem to be more and more important in naval promotions – in her case being both female and part-Maori.

So passionate is she about the importance of promoting women in the Navy (apparently because they are women rather than on merit) that the Navy website of 6 December, 2019, stated of her: “She is passionate about the development of women in the military and was co-chair of the N.Z. Defence Force’s Women’s Development Steering Group, which she helped create”.

She gave away her prejudices in her own words: “With women in the Navy, we still have work to do to create the environment where they can thrive” (presumably at the expense of men). And yet the speaker of this sexist nonsense has been appointed by her fellow feminist, Judith Collins, to investigate the sinking of the Manawanui by another woman officer, Yvonne Gray whose ability to tick various boxes is widely believed to have been the reason for her rapid promotion to command of the $100 million vessel that, under her command, sank in Samoan waters.

How could anyone have faith in such an Inquiry, headed by one who appears to be so fanatically committed to her fellow female officers as to bring her objectivity into doubt? Commodore Ross is the very last person who should be involved in an inquiry into the sinking of the Manawanui. Much of the blame for this continuing “train crash” can be laid at the feet of Judith Collins who, as Minister of Defence, was responsible for appointing her fellow feminist, Melissa Ross, to head the inquiry.

Instead of trying to rebut the obvious presumption that Yvonne Gray might have been appointed to command due to her ability to tick certain boxes of political correctness that the Navy apparently now deems so essential to promotion, Judith Collins resorted to smear tactics, which are always easier than giving truthful answers to allegations. Those who dared to point out that the purpose of the Navy is to defend the country and that this can best be achieved by promotion on merit rather than gender/sexual orientation were damned by Collins as “misogynists” and “armchair admirals”.

The Inquiry seems to be organised so that the Navy can protect its own back as well as its policies, including – and especially – the criteria for promotion in this ever more feminine (and feminist) service. As Peter Cresswell pointed out on his Not PC Blog “An inquiry by the Navy about the Navy doesn’t give confidence that we’ll ever know much more”.

The New Zealand Navy is a small affair where everybody knows everybody else and that is especially true of the coterie of powerful female officers who all seem to be of the same stripe – of advancing women (and covering up for them?) at the expense of men. Obviously Melissa Ross and Yvonne Gray know each other – probably very well. If a litigant in court is known to the judge, that is always pointed out and the judge will normally remove himself from the case. So why not follow this rule for the naval Inquiry?

For an Inquiry to be credible in should be headed by the Judge Advocate of the Armed Forces with two others: one from Britain’s Royal Navy and the other from the Royal Australian Navy. Only then could the public, whose taxes have to pay for a $130 million replacement vessel, have confidence in the outcome of the Inquiry. The choice of Melissa Ross to head it is yet another example of Judith Collins’ notoriously bad judgement. Former Defence Minister, Ron Mark, would never have made such a blunder.

Not surprisingly, the continuing absence of any meaningful information from the Navy has fuelled the rumour mill. One of these rumours is that Yvonne Gray’s “wife”, Sharon, was also on board the Manawanui when she sank. This is either true or false; it would be helpful if the Navy (or its Minister) would either confirm or deny it. As the well-paid Minister of Defence, Judith Collins has a lot of questions to answer and merely smearing those who ask them is not good enough. This thing is becoming a bigger mess by the day.

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