New Zealand’s Quisling Prime minister John Key…. Kissing Satan’s Anus!
Hollywood Global Copyrights ….
Secret Deals and Human Trafick ….
Mandating The Global Evil Eye….
Your Darkest imaginations …. are True!
The GCSB Bill must be Stopped!
Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian Independent.
Read The Daily Blog’s Take on the real reason for the GCSB Bill….
“National is placing considerable time, effort, money, and energy in pushing two Bills through Parliament;
Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Amendment Bill
Government Communications Security Bureau and Related Legislation Amendment Bill
Key’s rationale for the expansion of spying over all New Zealanders has consisted of purely bullshit excuses, relating to “weapons of mass destruction”, “terrorism”, and other fantasy scare-mongering. None of it is remotely true.
The real rationale for pushing these two inter-related Bills is more prosaic.
The common description of the Government Communications Security Bureau and Related Legislation Amendment Bill (aka “GCSB Bill) has been that this allows the GCSB to spy on all New Zealanders.
This is correct.
Literally, correct. The Bill, alongside it’s barely acknowledged “sister-Bill” – the Telecommunications (Interception Capability and Security) Amendment Bill – is designed deliberately to mandate the GCSB to spy on all New Zealanders.
Everyone.
Not just criminals.
Not just left-wing radicals.
Not just Maori nationalists.
Not just anti-TPPA acctivists. Or environment campaigners. Or trade unionists.
In fact, those people aren’t the real targets at all.
The targets are all New Zealanders.
^^^ I hope to attend this Meeting…. even though it is full of Shyster Lefties and Political Opportunists!
You gotta worry when you download anything from John Minto’s FB page. 🙂
Yet still I am beginning to think Smarmy smiley JK is *Worse*…. more dangerous to New Zealand than Helen Clark/ Winnie the Poo ever were!
Earlier Eternal Vigilance Blog Posts on the GCSB Bill….
Think seriously about this people..
By what right does the government demand to you declare every cent you earn?
Think about how arrogant and oppressive such a demand is!
Tell me please that under such demands that you/we are not *being treated like Cattle…like slaves* of the State!
Are you are so stupid….so conditioned as to think you are free, and that the Status quo is as good as a society as is possible?!!!
You are Slaves indeed!
What a joke it is that you consider State control of Education to be beneficial to society!
What follows in my Pathetic submission to the government review of New Zealand’s constitutional arrangements.
As usual I left writing it to that last minutes.
Leaving my run too late I simply ran out of time.
I have been doing shift work lately and I dont manage shift changes at all well.
I worked 12 hours Saturday night, and had today off, and planned to use it writing a killer submission, and yet I slept until 2.30pm, and then had some house chores to do.
Thus my submission is by my way of thinking… Pathetic!
As Usual I must hang my head in shame at how far below standard my contribution falls.
None the less I submitted it, believing even a Crappy attempt was better than none at all.
so read on…. Cry if you must but please refrain from being too scathing in your criticisms… Oh what the hell Rip into me!
I deserve it.
What is happening in New Zealand constitutionally speaking is quite frightening.
The Key National-Maori party Coalition government have set up a ‘Constitutional review panel to look at our constitutional arrangements and this board is filled with Maori Radicals, and socialists and there is every reason to believe that after a formal semblance of public liaison and submissions, that the powers that be will simply enshrine a constitution which suits them… grant them maximum powers and discretions, and maintains their ability to tax us and in debt us at will, and so I at least attempted to make a submission which challanged the ambitions of the powers that be.
I will add some links etc to this blog post later
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To the powers that be, and the Constitutional Review panel.
The purpose of my submission is to lay out some general guidelines by which I believe any proposed Constitutional Laws ought to be weighed, and deemed to be either Good or Bad.
I know my submission will not make some people happy.
I know my use of some terms such as ‘tyranny’ will cause some to ‘Poo poo’ me,
yet I ask you to seriously consider what I say.
My submission is not exhaustive.
There are some things I have only lightly touched upon, and others completely absent.
I would like to be presented with further opportunity to participate in future discussions, and would like to make an oral submission should that opportunity be made available.
Tim Wikiriwhi
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The State is the servant of the people, not their Master.
The purpose of a constitution.
There are just limits to government powers, and there are legitimate liberties in which citizens ought to be free to exercise their own conscience in the pursuit of their own happiness.
When theses are not clearly delineated Injustice occurs.
Bad Constitutions, Good constitutions, and the Status Quo.
A Bad constitution pseudo-legitimizes tyrannical powers of government …in particular it grants license to the largest mob… via the ruling party, to arbitrary make laws, and impose their party political agendas with complete disregard to the rights of individuals or minorities.
Bad constitutions give Parliament an open check book by allowing it to Levy Taxes and borrow money… increasing debts…. For what ever reasons…the ruling party wants.
This is a recipe for disaster!
For Bankruptcy, Political Favoritism, and wholesale oppression.
Unchecked parliamentary power appeals and panders to vested interests which come in many shapes and sizes.
Most Political parties tend to be lobbies for particular vested interests rather than proponents of blind and objective principles.
Today our unrestrained Parliamentary system has allowed such parties to expand the State and its burdens upon us and to impose their popular prejudices and delusions thereby producing a totalitarian system with tentacles which reach into every area of our lives.
They have buried us in Debts and taxes, and hobbled our industries and abilities to prosper.
Bad constitutions which give carte blanch scope and maximize Parliamentary power are favored by prejudiced and megalomaniac types , who harbor a distain for freedom and equality, and are possessed with an overwhelming urge to micro-manage other peoples lives.
They desire broad political powers for the sake of granting favour to the special interests they represent, or to persecute unpopular minorities.
Conversely …A just constitution keeps such Tyrannical vested interests in check.
The purpose of a proper/ just constitution is to clearly define the duties of Government and set clear Demarcations and limits of its powers and spheres of operation.
A good constitution contains a Bill of individual rights which are clearly defined and sacrosanct… ie the State violates the constitution if it encroaches upon these rights… even when it claims to have a democratic mandate to do so… ie The purpose of the bill of rights is to protect individuals and minorities from arbitrary Mob Rule.
Thus the legitimacy of a Democratically elected Government is maintained only as long as their powers and activities strictly remain within the restricted sphere of their defined duties.
. The sphere of Individual Freedom and self responsibility.
There is a sphere of Individual liberty and responsibility.
It is within this sphere that every Individual functions as a Free, and independent adult, Making their own choices and decisions free of political coercion, thereby benefiting from their own virtues, and suffering their own follies.
It is the domain of religious liberty, voluntary action, and personal ethics.
Under no circumstances is the elected parliament to be allowed to encroach upon, or reduce the sphere of individual liberty and responsibility.
Thus the Sphere of Individual freedom set limits to political power, and also leaves the individual the adult responsibility of self government in regards to such things as their own health, and financial well being, full control over their own money.
A proper constitution prohibits Meddlesome socialists from usurping greater powers and responsibilities at the expense of Individual freedom and self responsibility.
This is essential not only for maintaining Just Law and the proper relationship between Political power and individual Rights and liberties, but is also a Buttress against the Bloating of Government in size, scope, and expense.
The fact that we suffer a bloated Nanny State which levies heavy Taxations, and borrows hundreds of millions of dollars every week is testament to our dire need for a Constitution to Hog tie our socialist parliament and their financial ineptitude.
The Rule of Law.
It is a complete lie to equate ‘the Mandate of the majority’ as being the Rule of law.
It is no such thing.
The mandate of the Majority today is used by socialists as pseudo-justification for what ever Law they pass.
‘The will of the people’ is a grossly abused term used to justify Mob rule.
The oppressed are supposed to accept their lot simply because the Law has majority support.
The rule of law is something far less whimsical.
The rule of law is fundamentally the Constitutional safeguards which protect individuals and minorities from the evils of absolute democracy… the whims of populist politics and Mob oppression.
Without such safeguards citizens are exposed to the arbitrary will of Parliament.
It is the rigid nature of the constitution which establishes the true Rule of Law, by setting in stone certain Iron clad principles of justice which limits parliament from arbitrarily manufacturing laws which cater for vested interests, or impose popular prejudice, or from encroaching into spheres of activity which are not the proper domain of Just government.
One of the most important principles of Justice which establishes The rule of Law is the principle of Equality before the Law.
It is therefore one of the most violated of Just principles because Vested interests and warped Political ideologies are hell bent on creating un-equal laws, upon granting favours or removing the rights and liberties of certain sectors of our population.
Having the principle of Equality before the Law as a Constitutional Guarantee would halt the greatest percentage of Bad, unjust, legislations, usurpations, and Partisan Politics.
It should forbid Parliament from making any law based upon Race, gender, culture, creed, etc.
It would prevent laws which violate the personal sovereignty of certain groups… eg laws against drug and alcohol use by consenting adults, laws which discriminate against certain types of sex and Marriage between consenting adults, It would prohibit Parliament Banning or heavily taxing cigarettes, etc…. all these activities being within the legitimate sphere of personal choice, personal belief, and personal responsibility, because they do not of themselves violate the rights of others, esp when practiced on private property.
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One of the greatest injustices and violations of the principle of equality in New Zealand has been the Institutionalized racism surrounding the modern interpretations of the Treaty of Waitangi.
As a Maori I am deeply ashamed that this travesty is being perpetrated under the guise that as a Maori I am a hapless victim, and that I need and deserve special help and rights to function.
Not only is the Treaty industry shambollic and a massive extortion racket, and a font of Racist law … it actually harms and enslaves the Maori people in dependence upon the state, and is instilling a vile race hatred and bigotry, which shows it’s ugly head in may ways… esp in Maori crime statistics, and ill health.
The fact is that even if in practical terms this apartheid system actually got positive results, it would still be evil and vile because Good ends cannot justify evil means.
The wellbeing of one section of society can never be justify the oppression and subjection of other section of society, and this is just one reason why the principle of Equality must be binding upon parliament and government institutions.
Maori as much as anyone will benefit when all race based laws and institutions are abolished…esp the racist Electoral rolls and race based seats in Parliament (and elsewhere)
As a minority people, our rights are best protected by constitutional guarantees of equality before the Law.
In brief… Self ownership and Personal sovereignty.
The Individual is not the property of Government, not a slave of society, but is Free and sovereign over themselves, their own body, and their property.
Private property is another sacrosanct principle of justice which parliament must be kept from violating.
Though I have not space or time to fully expound everything which a righteous constitution ought to embody, I must make at least a passing comment that the institution of a New constitution can either be a Great leap backwards, or forwards, or it can entrench stagnation. The Ideals of a truly Just and free society are miles away from where we are today and I am not so silly as to think all my principles can be implemented overnight, but require a period of transition which achieves the desired goals with the minimum pain for New Zealanders who have become depended upon the Status quo.
Thus what is required is a plan of transition, by which incrementally Bad laws and overbearing government institutions are repealed and ‘wound back’… over a period of years.
Subjects which need further elaboration….
* the evils of Welfareism and dependency.
* The consent of the governed.
* Articles for the Bill of rights.
* What are the Just duties of a government?
*. How far from the mark is the Status quo?
* Planning the transition from the Status quo towards Justice and liberty/
* Down sizing and privatization
* Maintaining a free society.
SCIENTISTS ANGRY OVER COLLEGE’S ‘DISTURBING’ HIRE OF ASTRONOMY PROFESSOR WHO EMBRACES INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
Creationism and intelligent design are causing quite a stir at Ball State University, a public college in Muncie, Indiana. In addition to sparking an internal investigation into Professor Eric Hedin, a Christian who is accused by the atheistic Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), among others, of potentially indoctrinating students, there’s yet another new target. The FFRF is now joining evolutionary scientists in speaking out against the same university’s hire of Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez, an astronomy professor who embraces intelligent design.
What’s most fascinating about the debate is that academic environments really should be the host of vibrant discussion, debate and diverse viewpoints. While most scientists do believe in evolutionary theory, the notion that people who do not should be silenced seems counter-intuitive. But that is exactly what is unfolding as the contention over Ball State’s hiring of these professors progresses.
^^^ This story exposes the Bigotry which corrupts the academic world which not only stifles real science, but maintains the lies of evolution and Materialist in the position of ‘Orthodoxy’.
These Atheists are complete hypocrites because they are doing today what they accuse the Religious zealots of the past of doing!… Stifling dissenting opinion for the sake of maintaining a monopoly… not by reason… but by force!
Pay no mind what other voices say
They don’t care about you
Like I do
Like I do
Safe from pain and truth and choice and other poison devils
See they don’t give a **** about you
Like I do
Just stay with me
Safe and ignorant
Go back to sleep
Go back to sleep
‘ll be the one to protect you from
Your enemies and all your demons
I’ll be the one to protect you from
A will to survive and a voice of reason
I’ll be the one to protect you from
Your enemies and your choices son
One and the same I must isolate you
Isolate and save you from yourself
Swaying to the rhythm of the new world order and
Count the bodies like sheep
To the rhythm of the war drum ….
Lyrics from Perfect Circles ‘Pet’.
I am *Very Sorry* to hear that after 125 years the Truth is going out of Biz… It was one of the few truly Independent Media voices in New Zealand.
It was Tits out!…. It covered ‘Nude’ stories the mainstream Media intentionally ignores for the sake of maintaining and pandering to the delusions of the ‘Populus’… the Mob.
It was Raw… seedy…. Real!
With the Truth gone there will be no *Real Free Press* left in NZ. Only Retarded State arse kissing PC wowzer Status quo Nannyist socialist Rubbish which functions like it’s a branch of government.
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We will be reduced to Freedom blogs, and ‘Scoop NZ’ … and yet these rely heavily on Non professional Independent activists to supply their take on things.
Stuff article>>>> The Truth newspaper to stop publishing
The Death of the Truth Really is an indictment on just how mediocre minded and sheepish New Zealanders really are.
They are not interested in Independent thinking.
They lap up Reality TV… the kardashians… the Breakfast shows… and they Religiously worship Nanny State.
They believe all lifes problems have political solutions.
They believe in Totalitarian regulation of everything.
They absolutely deny an individual has inalienable rights which ought to be protected from Mobocratic power…. etc etc…
This is a society which tollerates Racist Law and Government.
This is a society of slaves which allows Rapacious Government to fleese them of 80% of their earnings and to give it to lazy bums who cant be bothered getting out of bed in the morning.
This is a society which allows the government to treat us all like children… banning our toys… etc etc…
In a society of sheep… an Independent Paper cant make enough to dosh to pay the lease.
And it’s not just NZ but the whole of wester Civilisation!
They have allowed their Governments to become their OverLords… To spy on them… to probe them… to disarm them…
“Goodbye Truth! We have no need of thee BAAAAA BAAAAA”
This is an update to the lists here and here of synthetic cannabinoids banned by Peter Dunne.
Banned as from 9 May 2013
BB-221-(cyclohexylmethyl)-8-quinolinyl ester-1H-indole-3-carboxylic acid 5F-AKB48 or APINACA 5-fluoropentyl analog or 5F-APINACA N-((3s,5s,7s)-adamantan-1-yl)-1-(5-fluoropentyl)-1H-indazole-3-carboxamide
This is another blow to the industry and one of many we have delivered – but I fully acknowledge it is more of the cat-and-mouse game until we can deliver the killer punch in August when the Psychoactive Substances Bill will become law
said Peter Dunne when he banned BB-22 and 5F-AKB48 last month.
But take a look at the trend here. There were 20 synthetic cannabinoids banned in 2011, 11 banned in 2012 and, so far this year, just 2.
I think the cat is getting tired.
And the industry is in very good health, despite having had to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous prohibitions. Tonight on Cuba Street, Wellington, I counted 9 synthetic cannabinoid products, in 2 different stores, probably containing 3 or 4 different synthetic cannabinoids. (And that’s not even to mention the flourishing herbal cannabis industry.)
I think the mouse won this cat-and-mouse game a long time ago.
Tony Bower Director of Mullaway Medical Cannabis Limited, and Auzzy Hero!
Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/Mullaway#!/Mullaway
Any one with Children who suffer from Fits and Seizures needs to watch this Video!
If you know anyone with children who suffer Fits and Seizures please forward this Video to them!
It could save their lives.
It is a matter of extreme urgency that Medical Cannabis be Legalised and made available to the New Zealand public!
IF had a child with such a condition, I would not hesitate to break the Law and get some of this Medicine for my child.
Tony Bower is a hero who is battling Prosecution for Cannabis cultivation to produce his wonder Medicine. I implore the people of Australia to Rally in his defence.
Post script update 15-6-13
It appears that the benefits of Cannabis in respect to treating Epilepsy were well known before it was prohibited…
THE ANTIQUE CANNABIS BOOK
Chapter 3 – (2nd Edition)
CENSORED MEDICAL STUDIES
CENSORSHIP
1947 – EPILEPSY STUDY
HARRY ANSLINGER’S CONCERN
[America’s 1st Drug Czar, Harry Anslinger]
This section of the Antique Cannabis Book, was meant primarily as a tool for active News Media Reporters who needed a quick (yet well documented) source of information on the subject of Governmental Censorship as it relates to Medical Cannabis. As such this (1947) study, which was openly published and never actually under the threat of censorship, would normally not qualify for inclusion.
However, a quick look beneath the surface shows a different story. One that reveals, wheels within wheels, circles within circles, all spinning around . . . . let’s just say that this study, came very close to (ah, how shall we put it), going the way of oh so many other Medical Cannabis studies.
The author is convinced that had Anslinger (or anyone at the D.E.A.) known about the study BEFORE IT WAS PUBLISHED , it most assuredly would have been CENSORED. Either that or (doing what the Narc’s do now), killed it in its cradle by simply denying the researchers the needed licenses and permits.
This one however, seems to have slipped though the cracks. Here let us go over the facts (those we’ve been able to locate), and let the reader to decide.
1.1 – STUDY SUMMERY
The following, located via 420 Magazine [1] is the shortest summery that we’ve been able to find. However, as it’s still filled with lots of PHD gobble goop, so the reader is advised simply to skim-read-it. The long and the short of it is that “ Cannabis Works. ”
Anti-Epileptic Action Of Marijuana-Active Substances BY JEAN P. DAVIS, M.D., and H.H. RAMSEY, M.D. [2]
The demonstration of anticonvulsant activity of the tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) congeners by laboratory tests (Loewe and Goodman, Federation Proc. 6:352, 1947 ) prompted clinical trial in five institutionalized epileptic children.
All of them had severe symptomatic grand ma1 epilepsy with mental retardation; three had cerebral palsy in addition. Electroencephalographic tracings were grossly abnormal in the entire group; three had focal seizure activity. Their attacks had been inadequately controlled on 0.13 gm. Of phenobarbital daily, combined with 0.3 gm. of Dilantin per day in two of the patients, and in a third, with 0.2 gm. Of Mesantoin daily. Two isomeric 3 (1,2-dimethyl heptyl) homologs of THC were tested, Numbers 122 and 125A, with ataxia potencies fifty and eight times, respectively, that of natural marijuana principles. Number 122 was given to two patients for three weeks and to three patients for seven weeks. Three responded at least as well as to previous therapy; the fourth became almost completely and the fifth entirely seizure free. One patient, transferred to 125A after three weeks, had prompt exacerbation of seizures during the ensuing four weeks, despite dosages up to 4 mg. daily. The second patient transferred to 125A was adequately controlled on this dosage, except for a brief period of paranoid behavior three and a half weeks later; similar episodes had occurred prior to cannabinol therapy. Other psychic disturbances or toxic reactions were not manifested during the periods of treatment. Blood counts were normal.
The cannabinols herein reported deserve further trial in non-institutionalized epileptics. Reprinted from Federation Proceedings, Federation of American Society for Experimental Biology, vol. 8, lY49, p. 284.
Source: Anti-Epileptic Action Of Marijuana-Active Substances
1.2 – MARJUANA LEAF PLAYS EPILEPSY CURE ROLE
The below newspaper article, taken from the “Salt Lake City telegram [May 20, 1947], was located via the National Archives (College Park, MD). It belonged to and was integrated into the files of Harry Anslinger’s old Bureau of Narcotics, today known as the D.E.A. We believe that it was the first that Anslinger knew about the study, and thus too late to CENSOR or put a stop to it.
[Bureau of Narcotics files, — National Archives, College Park, Md.]
[As per the Bureau of Narcotics Files ; National Archives]
TAKEN FROM SALT LAKE CITY TELEGRAM 5-20-49
Marijuana Leaf Plays Epilepsy Cure Role
Drug principles isolated from leaves of marijuana, an innocent-looking plant that grows wild in different parts of the world, are playing an important role in research on a cure for epilepsy.
This is the same marijuana which so many people fear as a habit-forming drug and which is noted for the opium-like dreams it produces in those who partake of it.
The drugs being used are synthetic substances related to cannabinol, which is contained in marijuana, but does not produce the same effects. Dr. Jean P. Davis, faculty researcher at the University of Utah medical college, has done considerable research with the drugs in treatment of minor and convulsive epilepsy.
She reports that the drugs have been found effective about 50% of the time. Future for epileptics appears “very bright,” she said, “because of not only one new drug, but a whole field of new compounds to combat epileptic seizures.”
Helps Minor Seizures One of these new drugs, trimethadione, is most effective in petit mal epilepsy, minor seizures common in younger patients. Another, paramethadione, a sort of second cousin to the first, is useful in such spells.
A third compound, called phenerone, is effective in psycho-motor seizures, sudden episodes of unusual behavior, accompanied by amnesia.
Epilepsy comes in four degrees: grand mal, or pykno-epilepsy, with brief staring spells; psycho-motor, accompanied by amnesia and unusual behavior, and Jacksonian, identified by retention of consciousness with progressive twitching and numbness of one leg or arm.
Mr. Davis is in charge of a section of the psychiatric clinic at Salt Lake General hospital, where she does some clinical work. She also instructs advanced courses in the departments of pharmacology and physiology at the university.
Began in 1929 According to Dr. Davis, actual valuable research with modern methods of fighting epilepsy came into their own in 1929 with the invention of the electro-encephalograph, an instrument for recording brain activity.
And the latest of the compounds used in treatment of the affliction was developed in 1948. Meanwhile, research is advancing at a rapid pace, Dr. Davis said.
She studied for three years under Dr. William Lennox, one of the top U.S. experts on epilepsy. She received her doctor of medicine degree at Yale university in 1943.
Most of her clinical work has been confined to children, with whom she “likes to work.”
Here note the wording:
“. . . Have been found effective about 50% of the time. “
“ . . . the same marijuana which so many people fear “
“ . . . Drug principles isolated from leaves of marijuana . . . being used are synthetic substances related to cannabinol, which is contained in marijuana, but does not produce the same effects. “
With respect to the above — note that a Medical Cannabis like “synthetic substance” is being referred to.
EPILEPSY STUDY — ON TO THE NEXT PAGE
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^^^^ YEAH RIGHT!
Many Modern Atheists are Pompous White horse Riding ‘Moralists’!
They are Religious Zealot’s on a Righteous Crusade, fighting the ‘Evils’ of Religion, and vigously propagating and defending their Faith.
They often get extremely vicious against declarations of Faith in the Christian God, which led one Blogger to inquire…
” I mean, if you truly believe there is no God, why get all worked up over what a bunch of delusional Christians think?”… Valley Girl Appologist.
Pondering upon a post on Richard Goode’s Face book page discussing this Atheist Mentality in respect to why many of them are so militantly Anti-Christ, and so strongly desire to deny God’s existence… I made the following comment…
“There is a psychological reason Richard, They Hide from God in the Dark so as to delude themselves they can do as they please, and yet Pesky Christians keep reminding them that there is a God, and that He sets the Moral Laws… not them, and that one day they will stand before him and answer for their sins. *This is a message they HATE* … to the very pit of their self deluded souls! They simply don’t want to know about God *End of story*
Which Solicited the following response from ‘Atheist Greg’
……… “GARBAGE!”
^^^ Now Greg has expressed an opinion, not a counter argument.
It is no doubt a very common ‘opinion’ among Atheists, yet I don’t think my position as stated above can be so easily dismissed.
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Atheist Greg has actually provided me with further opportunity to discourse the arguments for the Theistic vindication for Objective Morality vs Atheist Nihilism, and the origin of Mans innate sense of Good and evil.
Here I employ the basic argument used by the Late great C S Lewis.
My Reply…
If You Greg, and your kin, are nothing more than ‘Space Algae’, well *then* my arguement would be ‘Garbage’, yet you are a Conscious Moral being with a sence of Good and Evil, and you appeal to the ‘Moral law’ governing human actions every day… eg when you get a bill in the mail which overcharges you, you immediately feel a pang of ‘injustice’… and experience emotions of sorrow, and anger…. And begin to make self righteous determinations to see justice is restored. Now this sense of injustice at ‘wrong’ is more than simply being upset that an agreement was broken (social compact)…ie that a mere human convention was violated, It is a sense that *A Real Moral absolute… binding on all humanity has been broken* and that you are within your right to seek justice for your injury.
You are in fact appealing to an objective Moral absolute… a ‘higher Law’ which you implicitly believe underpins all ‘conventional’ human agreements as moral duties/ obligations to fulfil.
Thus I say that You Greg do not/ cannot live as a human being consistently with your claim that the universe is nihilistic/ A moral, or that Mankind is merely ‘Space Algae’.
To do so you would have to loose all sense of moral duty. You would have say to yourself that a person steeling your car… was not doing anything wrong… that even saying the car is ‘mine’ is a moral irrelevance… the universe caring nothing for your claims to ownership.
And you certainly have no basis to think that when a school bus full of children plunges over a cliff that any ‘cosmic injustice’ has occurred… no basis to shake your fist at heaven… the only reason you would do that is if deep within you believe in Moral absolutes, and know that Children *don’t deserve* to die, and that you are angry at God for allowing this sort of thing to happen.
The people who come the closest to the embodiment of Atheism are the Tyrants, Mass murderers, and Serial killers…The Hitler’s, the Ted Bundies… the Hannibal Lecters… The Sociopaths and Megalomaniacs who… like Wild beasts devour and enslave their fellow human beings *as if they are mere Space Algae* .
These are the Atheist ‘Realists’, who live under the conviction that all Morality and Law’s of society are merely Human conventions…and that there is no Real ‘Higher moral Law’ than their own Will.
They are God’s unto themselves.
Thus unless you (Atheist Greg) are prepared to accept that these Killers are absolutely right, and are prepared to drop any sense of Moral consciousness you have, I say
‘Garbage!’… to you!
I say deep within you know there is a real Higher Moral Law… you know that you are a Moral being… and these things all point to the notion of *Universal Justice*… God will judge!
…and as I was saying Atheists hate this Knowledge and seek to hide themselves from it.
They despise Christians for their ‘Pesky declarations’ which puts a tourch light on them…reminding them of their flight from Reality and their knowledge of the Truth.
Thus We witness the Ironic spectacle of Atheists who insist they are Moral, yet deny all Moral Obligation! They are ‘moral’ in their own eyes, and ‘holy’/without sin according to their own standards.
*How Convenient!* 🙂
What Basis is left for Morality if God… the Divine Lawgiver is Obliterated?
Atheist Materialists in the 1800s admitted that Materialism was the end for objective morality, yet the Modern atheist is not so bold, nor so rigorous as to where their premises ultimately lead, and instead pretend that their Atheism makes them *more moral than theists!* and they attempt to utilize Historic atrocities committed in God’s name as evidence that ‘religion is evil’… forgetting they have no ‘higher ground’ upon which to stand to make any such moral judgments, and that in doing so they are applying standards which are not theirs to use!
Such a one eyed approach which only looks at particular negative historic events does not succeed in knocking all religion off it’s perch, or by default add one ounce of objective moral reality to Atheism.
While defending God’s Divine right to execute judgments upon Mankind, Christians themselves are just as rigorous as any atheist in their condemnation of atrocities like 911, or the Salem witch trials…committed in God’s name.
I attended a Debate in Auckland a Few years ago between Matthew Flannagan and Prof Bradley on the topic ‘Is God the source of morality’ in which Dr Flannagan presented the God Command Moral theory, and the atheist Prof Bradley made the statement that he believed that because God does not exist that therefore he cant be the source of morality.
Instead he argued morality can only be founded upon ‘sentiment’!!!
Now ‘sentiment’ is an absolutely pathetic, subjective, and culturally relative foundation without any authority to impose Moral obligations! (and I criticised him for it at question time!)
This is really the subject fit for another Blog post, yet what is interesting about the modern Atheist is that they cannot bear the reality that their belief system is definitively Amoral and De-humanising.
To avoid this they attempt to change the game as to what morality really is.
Important End Note:
The Genesis story of the Fall of Mankind into sin declares that we were transformed from a child-like innocence into a ‘Knowledge of Good and Evil’, and It is this inner knowledge of Good and Evil which makes all mankind, in all times and places, accountable and Guilty before God and deserving of Judgment because they all have a knowledge of their own moral responsibilities. Thus I am saying that the Savage whom tortures his neighbor to death *knows he is committing Evil*… even if he has never herd of Jesus Christ. And God will Judge him for it. So too with the Atheist who does not believe Jesus Rose from the dead. This denial does not negate the Atheists own knowledge of sin, and guilt for his immoral actions for which God will hold him accountable.
Thus contrary to what Many atheists assert: The Bible does not deny Atheists cant have any sense of Morality… it insists that everyone does!
What We Christians say is that the Atheist position cannot justify their morality…. That Atheism itself is Amoral, and that it leads to mere cultural relativism, and social arbitrary law.
When Atheists claim to be moral, they a contradicting themselves.
Tim Wikiriwhi
King James Bible Believer, Dispensationalist, Libertarian, Christian.