One of the very best Facebook pages is The Founders, Religion and Government.
They are full of historical biography and quotation.
All Christian Libertarians ought to ‘like’ their page!
Here is something they have posted….
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Get a FREE copy of “George Washington the Christian″ by William J. Johnson – Here:
Over the years, George Washington, along with many of the American Founding Fathers, have been labeled deists, agnostic or even atheists. Originally written in 1919, William Johnson, citing dozens of letters and books puts forth the case that Washington was not, as many claim, a deist, meaning a belief in a God, but one uninvolved with the world after its creation.
Washington’s frequently professed belief in the “Hand of Providence,” as evidence in this book, which is contrary to the concept of an uninvolved God. One of the best examples of this can be found in the story of Isaac Potts, a Tory (pro-British) Quaker. One day, while walking the woods near Valley Forge, he came upon George Washington, in prayer. When he returned home, Potts told his wife, “If George Washington be not a man of God, I am greatly deceived and still more shall I be deceived, if God do not, through him, work out a great salvation for America. ”
A unique piece included in this book is a specific list of the various names for the deity Washington used. 54 appear in various quotations throughout the book.
Mike the Motorcycle Missionary @ The Battle of the Streets. Paeroa New Zealand 2013.
The Christian Motorcyclists Association New Zealand was formed in 2005 by a group of individual riders with a passion for motorcycling and a passion for serving Jesus Christ.
Their vision was to provide an organization that met, not only for social gatherings and rides, but would also provide spiritual encouragement for Christian Motorcyclists to fulfil the great commission as set out by Jesus in Matthew 28:19-20. “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Website: http://country.cmainternational.org/NZ
PO box 84189, Westgate
Waitakere,
New Zealand 0657
president@cmanz.org
www.cmanz.org
Jesus Corner. Battle of the Streets. Paeroa New Zealand. 2013.
From a CMA Tract… ‘He would have Ridden A Motorcycle’.
Jesus the Biker.
He was a lot like you and me.
The Government didn’t like him.
The Church thought he was weird.
His friends were few.
What friends he had denied him.
He was persecuted by hypocrites.
He hung around people like you and me, not goody two shoes Pharisees.
Yes, if Jesus were on this earth in the flesh, he would be next to you on his motorcycle…
My 2010 Triumph Bonnieville America.
The Power of the Christian Gospel to transform lives is truly amazing.
It is one of the few Ideologies with really converts the wicked.
Really leads sinners to repentance.
There are thousands of testimonies of the most Evil Gangsters and criminals whom have forsaken violence and truly reformed when they have seen the light and love of Christ.
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.
A virus with the potential to kill up to half the world’s population has been made in a lab. Now academics and bio-terrorism experts are arguing over whether to publish the recipe, and whether the research should have been done in the first place.
Have we reached the limits of free speech? Discuss.
I SHALL here draw this book to a conclusion: prepared if it were necessary to pursue this Discussion still farther. Though I consider that I have now abundantly satisfied the godly man, who wishes to believe the truth without making resistance. For if we believe it to be true, that God fore-knows and fore-ordains all things; that He can be neither deceived nor hindered in His Prescience and Predestination; and that nothing can take place but according to His Will, (which reason herself is compelled to confess;) then, even according to the testimony of reason herself, there can be no “Free-will” — in man, — in angel, — or in any creature!
Hence: — If we believe that Satan is the prince of this world, ever ensnaring and fighting against the kingdom of Christ with all his powers; and that he does not let go his captives without being forced by the Divine Power of the Spirit; it is manifest, that there can be no such thing as — “Free-will!”
Again: — If we believe that original sin has so destroyed us, that even in the godly who are led by the Spirit, it causes the utmost molestation by striving against that which is good; it is manifest, that there can be nothing left in a man devoid of the Spirit, which can turn itself towards good, but which must turn towards evil!
Again: — If the Jews, who followed after righteousness with all their powers, ran rather into unrighteousness, while the Gentiles who followed after unrighteousness attained unto a free righteousness which they never hoped for; it is equally manifest, from their very works, and from experience, that man, without grace, can do nothing but will evil!
Finally: — If we believe that Christ redeemed men by His blood, we are compelled to confess, that the whole man was lost: otherwise, we shall make Christ superfluous, or a Redeemer of the grossest part of man only, — which is blasphemy and sacrilege!
A Socially conscientious face book friend asked me …. “just curious, what is your view on schooling? do you think it is something that should be the states responsibility to provide or the parents responsibility to provide/find an appropriate organization to provide it for them? just curious as to what you thought :)”
As this is a very important topic, I think it is appropriate to post my response here for discussion.
It is a brief overview of my position as a Kiwi Libertarian who has had a guts full of the absolute BS that goes for education in this country…
My reply…
This is a subject of the highest importance.
The reality is that when you clearly define what are the proper duties of Government, things like Education and Health fall outside the proper domain of political coercion and governmental responsibility.
In fact it is very dangerous to grant politicians power and control over such things.
Before the advent of ‘State education’ schooling was fast growing as a successful private institution, and when the Socialists wanted to nationalize schooling, enlightened minds rightly recoiled at this knowing the State would inevitably use the education system to indoctrinate the population with it’s own political agenda… and this is exactly what has happened. eg All the false propaganda about European colonization of New Zealand, and the treaty as being a partnership etc.
Another example is all the ‘Green / climate change propaganda’ creating a generation of sheeple whom will allow the government to tyrannize over their lives and the economy under the guise of ‘Caring for dolphins, etc’.
Intellectual Giant. The Self-educated Individualist/ Libertarian Herbert Spencer.
He warned of the inevitable evils which would follow in the wake of the State Nationalisation of education… and time has absolutely vindicated his prophesies!
His ‘The Man vs the State’ is a must read.
The ‘Indoctrination system’ has created generations of Sheeple who today think it’s the states job to ‘mother’/ nanny everyone and that all life’s problems have political solutions… and thus ought to be regulated.
There is a constant bleating about ‘too much liberty… not enough State control’.
Plus because the state monopoly virtually eliminates the virtues of ‘Free-market’ forces/ competition the system tends to stagnate, whereas the dymanics of free-market competition always seeks to improve the value it supplies to its consumers so as to increase its market share.
Thus the free-market in Education would produce the highest value for the lowest cost.
Conversely it was recently calculated that our State system sucks $9 out of every $10 into it’s bureaucracy with only $1 going on to actually educating our kids.
Thus there is potential for huge cost savings to the NZ public whom are still under the delusion that education is ‘free’ in this country when in fact they pay exorbitant amounts via taxation.
Furthermore there is an entrenched ‘Soviet’ unionized mentality within the Collectivized Teaching fraternity who seek to aviod the ‘horrors’ of Free market quality controls, and instead maintain themselves as a state bureaucracy…. resisting reform.
The prevailing political ideology of teachers in this country are die hard advocates of totalitarian control of everything.
Then you have the Ministry of Education playing God, deciding what will be taught to you kids,… what values are taught robbing parents to their rights to choose what they believe is in the best interest of the children.
The whole business stinks to high heaven, yet the sheeple have been so successfully indoctrinated to believe that ‘our system is wonderful, and that privatization will mean poor kids will miss out’ that the very notion of removing the state from education is absolutely unconscionable.
The Proper duty of government is strictly limited to upholding the Natural rights and liberties of the individual, not implementing socialist agendas… not social engineering.
Yet because this limited sphere of operation severely restricts political power, and maximizes self responsibility, the power tripping politicians will always attempt to overstep the bounds of legitimate political intervention, using emotive excuses to justify their usurpations, and the sheeple who don’t like self responsibility will vote for politicians who offer to ‘mummy’ them… and tax others to pay for things which they themselves ought to pay.
Socialism is one great big tit sucking scam where people are under the delusion that they are getting something for nothing.
The reality is Socialism is chronically ‘top heavy’, shuns progressive innovation and is bankrupt!
Yet how are enlightened self educated folk like myself supposed to get the truth across to the masses in the face of the multi Billion dollar multi headed hydra of State Indoctrination and media… whom constantly preach that freedom is bad and state power is good?
We are said to be radicals whom ought to be simply ignored.
The Beast reigns!
Tim Wikiriwhi
Libertarian.
I’m fast coming around to the view that the Socialist Salvation Army expresses like this.
our first parents were created in a state of innocency, but by their disobedience they lost their purity and happiness, and that in consequence of their fall all men have become sinners, totally depraved, and as such are justly exposed to the wrath of God.
This is the doctrine of original sin. It was Adam (and Eve) who committed the orginal sin, but you have inherited that sin. You were born bad. Free will is commonly believed to be a precondition of moral agency and moral responsibility, but it’s not. Just as well, since we don’t have free will!
Contrary to popular opinion, moral responsibility is not consequent upon our actions (whether freely chosen or otherwise). Moral responsibility is not gotten through acts of commission or omission. In fact, it’s a matter of give and take. You are morally responsible if you are justly held accountable by other people (including God) or if you rightly take responsibility yourself for your own (or other people’s) actions.
The view I have just expressed is not a popular one. It gets intransigent atheists, in particular, in a real lather. Here‘s Ayn Rand.
The name of this monstrous absurdity is Original Sin.
A sin without volition is a slap at morality and an insolent contradiction in terms: that which is outside the possibility of choice is outside the province of morality. If man is evil by birth, he has no will, no power to change it; if he has no will, he can be neither good nor evil; a robot is amoral. To hold, as man’s sin, a fact not open to his choice is a mockery of morality. To hold man’s nature as his sin is a mockery of nature. To punish him for a crime he committed before he was born is a mockery of justice. To hold him guilty in a matter where no innocence exists is a mockery of reason. To destroy morality, nature, justice and reason by means of a single concept is a feat of evil hardly to be matched. Yet that is the root of your code.
The doctrine of original sin squares the existence of morality with the non-existence of free will.
The doctrine of original sin is Biblically sound, whereas the doctrine of free will is not (notwithstanding that it’s a very popular theodicy).
Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me. (NIV)
“It’s mine too! Even though I live in a socialist Bananna State 13000 miles away from the US!
I can claim this because the 2nd embodies a universal truth.
And my claim does not rest upon the recognition of the Beehive.
It rests upon my inalienable rights which are mine even if the tyrants in wellington refuse to endorse them.”
Place me like a seal over your heart,
like a seal on your arm;
for love is as strong as death,
its jealousy unyielding as the grave.
It burns like blazing fire,
like a mighty flame.
Many waters cannot quench love;
rivers cannot sweep it away.
If one were to give
all the wealth of one’s house for love,
it would be utterly scorned. (NIV)
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