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The Christchurch Terrorist attack, PM Ardern’s desire to ban semi-Automatic rifles, and the delusion that will make New Zealanders safer.

Note: Tyranny has been running amok here in New Zealand since the Christchurch Terrorist Atrocity happened with Censorship, and suppression, People getting arrested for mere comments on Facebook! Its like The Death of Free speech has arrived.
My Blogpost (below) was written *before* many of these Censorship laws were rushed into being and so it contains references to the now banned manifest… yet if you go and read my latest blogpost here you will understand why I have not deleted these references from my post below.

I also wrote another Blog post on this subject before that Censorship ban Here and another *after the Ban here … in which I explain why I have not redacted excerpts of the manifesto ‘the great replacement’ from these related blog posts.

As a Christian Libertarian New Zealander my sincere condolences go out to the Muslim community in Christ church and their greater families and friends… and their wounded in the hospitals are in my prayers.

This horrific act of terrorism has caused our Nation such a deep wound that cuts to the heart, and my post today is like so many others that will be written about this crime, and asking what can be done to prevent this sort of atrocity happening again, yet My words will not be in support of the plan being preached down from above by Jacinda Ardern who is promising the state will do more to keep us all safe.
I want to suggest that this crime is a wake up call for New Zealanders to snap out of their childish and misplaced dependence on Misguided politicians like her and to take more responsibility for our own defense.
I want New Zealanders to wake up to the fact that we have already been robbed of many of our natural rights to take care of our own security and to utterly reject Arden’s plans to render us even more defenseless, and take away our Semi-automatic firearms that are 99.999% used for peaceful purposes… hunting.
So Our Great leader thinks little about destroying the rights of millions of New Zealanders over the actions of a handful of extremists.

And in fact The terrorist expressly chose firearms because he knew that would cause politicians to try and Ban guns….
This being So Jacinda Ardern is proving to be a gullible puppet on a string!
A Predictable Simpleton.
In his manifesto ‘The Great Replacement’ published on line before the attack the Killer said the reason he used firearms over other options was to achieve maximum Media Hype and to provoke Leftist politicians (like Jacinda Ardern) into passing draconian fire arms restrictions!
And like a Puppet on a string that is precisely what Ardern has immediately proposed to do!
The following is an extract from the manifesto… ‘The Great Replacement’…. warning… its vile stuff…

Quote:

Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources. I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic
polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing
of the US along cultural and racial lines. Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New
Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained, but I soon found
out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere
else in the West. Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of
the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the
invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world
and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass
immigration. Was there any reason you attacked that(those) mosque(s) in
particular?
Originally the mosque in Dunedin was the main target,particularly after
watching the video on their facebook page named “Otago muslim
association”


(From Stuff here)

Socialist Governments are absolutely idiotic.
What we are seeing here with Ardern’s declaration of a future ban on semi automatic weapons, is the lie that Socialists sell the world over … the claim that the more defenseless they render everybody… the more they take away our rights… the more laws they pass… that the safer we all are supposed to be…. *when the opposite is true*
Contemplate the fate of the Venezuelan population whom complied with their socialist government, and were disarmed!
The more defenseless they render us… the more exposed to violence we become!

Ardern’s ‘Super genius socialist plan’ is no better than the *Same utter rubbish* being pedaled in London due to the so-called ‘Knife crisis’.
Having Banned handguns there… people are now Stabbing each other. ( Where Murder abounds is a testament to a moral crisis that is something socialists cant fix by their stupid prohibitions)

In London the Socialists idiots running the place there are coming up with all sorts of suggested new laws and prohibitions!
Banning home delivery of knives… suggesting all knife points be rounded off ‘by law[… etc etc.
(See here)
And here… UK official says all knives should be fitted with GPS trackers to fight rise in stabbings. He’s mocked mercilessly.
He added that ‘it’s time we had a national database like we do with guns’!!!!!

Talk about unhinged!

Reality pill people!
You cannot ‘Ban’ the universe into being a ‘safe space’ for defenseless children…. these Liberal Tyrants are turning our nations into Children’s daycare centers… and it does not work!
They are are simply making the population more dependent upon the State… and therefor less self reliant… and more exposed.
Ie *Less safe!*
They are turning our societies into Prisons… yet even in prisons Dangerous criminals can still make shanks and murder you… even in a prison with hundreds of guards and all Guns and knives Banned!
Only *Idiots* think these prohibitions are a good idea… or have any hope of success!
The concept that any time something bad happens is an indication that the government needs to do ‘more’ is retarded.
I want you to think about this instead… These terrible events can just as easily be seen as an indication the Government needs to do *less*!
Instead of the Govenment taking away more of our rights, they ought to be restoring our rights they have already foolishly taken away!
*Re-Empowering us* to look out for our own security.
This is what a society of Free, enlightened, and self-reliant Citizens would be… a society that does not believe the foolish idea that our politicians can keep us safe.

Yet this *Do less* response to these sorts of horrors rarely occurs to the minds of the Sheeple who seek to rely on Governments to keep them safe rather than take responsibility for their own safety…
The Sheeple refuse to see this atrocity as proof of the failure of Nanny State Socialism.
Sheeple prefer to have Less rights rather than More personal responsibility…. and this childish mentality is precisely what feeds the Socialist politicians and why these Little brainless tyrants get elected instead of more honest, and competent candidates.
Socialism Feeds on Paranoia.
Liberty requires Bravery…. and so any event that spooks the sheeple results in more Socialism… less freedom.

Why did the Maniac choose to come to New Zealand to shoot peaceful Muslims instead of going to Syria and shooting *Real Islamic Terrorists*?
Because though he maybe consumed with hatred … he is not *Insane*… He knew our Socialist state has disarmed *our Muslims* … and did not fancy the Idea of having his victims shooting back!
Now… up until this Cowardly atrocity happened, its most likely that New Zealand Muslim migrants would have had little concerns about being dis-armed by the New Zealand government, and many of them probably bought into the delusion that this law has a lot to do with why New Zealand is so much ‘Safer’ than many of the places they have escaped from… yet that is not the case at all!

What causes New Zealand to be a safer place is not our Gun Restrictions, but our policy of Tolerance and relative religious liberty that comes from our enlightened and Founding Protestant Culture.
And Muslim immigrants have taken full advantage of this liberty and tolerance we enjoy here in this country to maintain their Islamic faith and community, and they are *practicing this tolerance of others too*, and this is the foundation of peaceful co-existence in a free society made up of disparate groups , each following their own conscience and peacefully worshiping God as they believe is right.
*Its this Tollerance, and respect for the religious liberty of others that makes New Zealand such a great place to live… for everyone.

In this sense New Zealand has been an example to the world that Freedom of Religion works and that Muslims, Christians, Jews, Atheists, and Hindus, can all live together in the same communities to mutual benefit… based upon the common values that we all want to be safe in our lives and property, and be free to follow our own values while respecting the rights of our neighbors to do the same.

Yet even though by far the Majority of New Zealanders… both Native and new arrivals are tolerant and peaceful, there will always exist a tiny number of psychopaths and maliciously warped minds like these Freaks whom have cause our Nation such a horrific wound.

The lie That Socialist politicians continue to pedal … and the delusion of the Timid sheeple who worship Nanny State and vote for them… those who have no concept of the value of Freedom or self reliance … is that Socialist Nanny State can keep us all safe… if she is allowed to take away more of our rights and Liberties…
This is not only a dishonest lie that renders us all sitting ducks… it is also a Childish fantasy!
Its the Children’s fairy story about a Utopian world where folk have no need of Guns… where there are no Bad People who disobey the laws… dont make Guns or bombs… where the Government and police are angels and never act tyrannically or unjustly … etc etc
This is not the world we live in children!
This is the type of Childish thinking that refuses to see that though we have relative peace and liberty, and religious tolerance, that places like Mosques, Churches, and even schools, should have armed guards, and that it should be no big deal for ordinary people to carry the means of defending themselves.

I know that that last comment will have the sheep absolutely bleating!
Yet it is their sheepish terror that refuses to acknowledge *The real world truthfulness* of what I have said… and they want to cling to their fantasy that a disarmed population can be kept safe from this sort of Terrorism by Nanny state!

It has been reported that it took Police 36 minutes before they engaged the Terrorist from when they were first notified there was an active Gunman on the loose… and by then nearly 50 people were murdered and dozens more seriously injured.

And that we are taliking now about *Semi-autos* not Full automatic machine guns (which have already been banned) is a testament to *The Creeping socialist agenda to ban all privately owned guns* and leave only the State with fire arms!
The Tyrannical Government’s *wet Dream*… an absolutely helpless and subject population of slaves!
This is why The founding Fathers of American freedom enshrined the second amendment and why Tyranny loving Socialists Dems in the US are hell bent on abolishing the second.

The truth is This Terrorist attack against peaceful worshipers and immigrants proves We New Zealanders have lived in a socialist dream bubble that has burst.
The Root cause of this Terrorism is not too many Guns… but not enough… and it should become the norm that we have armed guards and *more gun rights not less* … generally speaking.
This is the reality pill that so few sheepish are willing to swallow and why our naive and simpleton Woke SJW Prime minister has already announced that semi-automatic fire arms will be outlawed!
This was a 100% predictable knee jerk reaction from her… I knew this would be her plan as soon as I herd about this crime, as it is Textbook for Socialist Liberals to use events like this to further empower themselves and take way the rights of the Millions of law abiding people under the pretext of public safety… and to try and keep the idiots believing the myth…maintaining the charade that * NANNY WILL KEEP US SAFE*… even though this Terror attack proves the lie!
Semi-automatic guns are the mainstay of Hunting in New Zealand.
They are Tools… not ‘Weapons’!
And we cannot allow our Virtue signally Woke SJW PM make New Zealand a laughing stock to the rest of the world… and an even more attractive destination for foreign extremists to commit these atrocities in the future!

Our Nation is rapidly being effeminated by the insanity of Lefty Liberalism.
It was only last century that New Zealanders were renowned for their Martial excellence distinguishing themselves in two world wars and that our enemies were very wary of our Nation because we were known to be a Nation of fearless warriors … Proud Gun owners who knew knew how to use them , and taught our children how to use them too.
*That is the sort of Mindset* that would make our country far less attractive to cowardly terrorists!
The very opposite message of what our foolish PM is broadcasting to the world.
Wake up New Zealand!


Professional Virtue signaler NZ PM Jacinda Ardern puts on her I care for Muslims ‘hat’

Well thankfully we do not yet live under *Her dictatorship* so thankfully she does not have the Authority to impose such an extreme and tyrannical Law upon us, and New Zealand still has a strong Hunting and gun ownership community (50 000 guns were imported into the country last year), and I am hoping New Zealander rally and publicly demonstrate against this new and absurd and extreme Gun regulation proposal… and I have high expectations that Jacinda Ardern will fail.
Lets hope so.
Read more here

Muslims and Christians, and Schools, and even Liquor stores and dairies etc need to look to their own security, and the Government needs to roll back regulations that hinder these places from being able to bear the means of self defense against dangerous Criminals who already flout the Law!
I have read that the Guns used in the Christchurch terrorist attack were *illegally obtained*… and so why would any fool think that passing more laws is gong to hinder these sorts of fanatical criminals?
Stop being Gullible idiots to the delusional failed tyrannical prohibitions of Simpletons in parliament.

On the one hand while our PM Basks in the limelight as the next Messiah… doning a hijab… hugging people and promises to cover the funeral costs of the victims, and other financial assistance, her minions in the NZ police were busy trying to suppress New Zealanders from veiwing and sharing footage of the attack:
See: Christchurch mosque attack: Up to 14 years’ jail for video sharers as Commissioner asks Facebook to give police names

This Grotesquely heavy handed suppression of the Truth is barefaced Liberal tyranny!
Of Course the NZ government and police dont want people to see the truth of their failure to keep New Zealanders safe… or for any sudden enlightenment to break out that the government are partly responsible for the death toll because they have disarmed us all by law leaving us exposed to criminals and terrorists..
They dont want New Zealanders to be shocked int demanding their rights back to Concealed carry of side arms for their own defense!
So this is about suppression of truth for the sake of the political agenda of the powers that be… and agenda they seek to further impose with their plans for more heavy handed Gun regulations.

When the Evil was raging in Christchurch …Many heroic deeds and exploits were done in the face of this monstrous Crime!
So called ‘Toxic Masculinity’ was on display in all its glory…
Men gave their lives attempting to stop the Gunman.
Fathers took bullets shielding their children.
others took grave risks to aid the injured.
Read one here

It is the height of foolishness to think that any new measures …any new prohibitions can grantee such atrocities never happen again in the future!
The best you can hope to achieve is a well armed and proficient Citizenry who are ready and capable to look to their own defense.

Lets not let the Terrorists or the Tyrants win.
Lets up Keep our Rights and liberties, and our toleration and respect for the rights of others.
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

Update: ‘Panic buying’ of guns to beat law change after Christchurch shooting

This is what New Zealanders think of Ardern’s Gun control plans!
AWESOME!
Dont trust the Government to keep you safe!

Update 18-3-19

Update 20-3-19 Read… ISIS call for extremists to take ‘revenge’ for New Zealand mosque shootings… And yet despite such threats our PM still wants to take away even more of our guns and leave us even more defenseless!

More from Tim…

GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATES CARE ABOUT YOUR WIVES, MOTHERS, AND DAUGHTERS.

TRIBUTE: HERO CHRISTIAN BIKER WITH AR 15 SHOOTS IT OUT WITH TACTICALLY PREPARED CHURCH PSYCHO-KILLER .

ANTI-GUN LOBBY PROPAGANDA BACKFIRES. WOMAN ARE SAFER WITH GUNS.

GUNS ACROSS AMERICA. CHRISTIAN PASTOR SHAHRAM HADIAN SPEAKS IN DEFENCE OF 2ND AMENDMENT

.MORE GUNS LESS CRIME…

FOR GOODNESS SAKE…STICK TO YOUR GUNS!

AMERICA HAS FORGOTTEN ITS ROOTS! LAVOY’S DAUGHTER RAISES THE CALL!

The Sophistry of Ayn Rand. Selfishness. A conversation with Prodos Marinakis


Ayn Rand’s ‘The Virtue of selfishness’.

It is my opinion that while she is correct about the Ideals of Capitalism and Freedom, Ayn Rand’s philosophy ‘Objectivism’ takes individualism to perverse extremes and in so doing has committed great disservice to the Libertarian cause.
She was a Megalomaniac says the late Nathaniel Branden, and by my reckoning… a Narcissist… and her cult attracts a high percentage of Disciples with similar Sociopathic tendencies.

Unfortunately The reputation of Objectivism has become entangled with that of the Libertarian movement.
Having usurped a position of authority in the Libertarian movement Objectivist teachings and character have caused the Libertarian movement to stink… All the High Ideals of Libertarianism have been sullied because of the delusion that Libertarians are selfish and dont give a toss about the poor, and as long as this is how the Voting Public veiws Libertarianism… There will never be a Libertarian Government elected into office.
Objectivists tend to drive out other types of Libertarians as it takes a very thick skin to bear their Obsessive derision of Religion and glorification of egotistical arrogance.

The accusation that ‘Libertarians are selfish bastards who dont give a shit about the poor’ is a characteristic easily assumed by Socialists and others who have the unpleasant misfortune of talking with an arrogant Randiod Egoist.
Though it is a terrible accusation… this sort of Critisism is often received by an Objectivist as a badge of Honour to be worn with pride! They think concern for others is a vice.
They assume they are imitating their Glorious master who teaches them to be absolutely impervious to the opinions of others.
Central to her Philosophy is also Militant Atheism…’Religion is the root of all evil’ type mentality that is not only overt, but also needs to be appreciated to understand that her Individualism is underpinned (and distorted) because of her Atheism.

Ironically I was prompted to write this blogpost critisising Rands contention that ‘selfishness is a virtue’ after having a Facebook conversation with an Objectivist who shares few (if any) of these common Objectivist traits, and is prepared to Diverge from Rand’s Rabid Anti-theism… Australia’s Colourful champion of Liberty… Prodos Marinakis.
From his comment below you can see for yourself he is willing to be honest and critical about the Objectivist movement.
He’s a very likable Guy.


Prodos Facebook

As Facebook friends I saw one of his posts on ‘The political Compass’ which is a better ‘graph’ on which to plot peoples Political persuasions rather than the ridiculously simplistic Far Left to Far Right Linear graph that is adored by the Mainstream who only seek to maintain the two party system.
These ‘Left and Right’ parties dont like the ‘political compass’ because it outs them as anti-freedom Authoritarians.

Having answered a questionnaire to ascertain his political leanings… the result was plotted on the compass. Below is Prodos result…. and I’ll let our conversation carry on from here… yet for the record I myself am a Bible believing Christian and an Independent Libertarian activist.
*****

…Prodos Marinakis

Political Compass Test — just for fun.
Mine is below. Similar score to Milton Friedman.

More “conservative” than “libertarian”.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Tim Wikiriwhi:
I’m not surprised by your result Prodos given how highly you regard Rand.
I think she distorts peoples views about the virtue of Charity and the vise of selfishness, whereas I highly Regard Jesus Christ and St Paul… and it will be no surprise to you that I usually register as a left leaning Libertarian.

And yet now having completed this test (above) I too have come out a Right leaning Libertarian … making a mockery of my earlier comment… 🙂

In fact We virtually got the same coordinates…[ Both Libertarians rather than Authoritarians …I was slightly to the left of Prodos… yet still on the right side of the spectrum]

Like me you were probably uncomfortable with the Direction of some of the questions and were forced to make some choices without the opportunity to explain your reasoning…

Prodos Marinakis:
Tim, thanks for sharing your Political Compass results & for your comments — both before and after doing the “Political Compass” test.
I’m very glad to see that we got such similar results. You are more surprised by that than I am, since I believe I understand you, better than you understand me.
You wrote, regarding Ayn Rand:
“I think she distorts peoples views about the virtue of Charity and the (vice) of selfishness …”
Well, to talk about Ayn Rand (or Jesus) and not get bogged down, it helps to have specific quotes and to also put them into the proper context. True?
Personally, I consider Charity to be a virtue — provided it’s not tainted by the Kantian notion of altruism (which, despite the modern Church’s reliance on this evil concept, is in fact a post-Christian and anti-Christian invention of Auguste Comte from the 1830’s).
As for “selfishness” as a motive … that term, in Ethics, usually refers to a bad motive.
Calling someone “selfish” usually means that they’re benefiting themselves — even when it’s at the expense of others. And they’re benefiting themselves in a way that’s indifferent to other people.
Yet, there is nothing in Ayn Rand’s fiction or non-fiction that advocates or esteems THAT kind of “selfishness”.
On the contrary, being “selfish” in the Ayn Rand sense — as she explained in The Virtue of Selfishness and encapsulated in her saying: “There are no conflicts of interests among rational men”.
Not to mention the whole model of Free Market Capitalism.
It is true, however, that Objectivism tends to underrate the value and virtue of Charity.
When a writer uses a word (or an expression) it’s important to understand what THE WRITER meant by that word (or expression).
When Jesus says “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s” … we need to study what Jesus meant.
For instance he didn’t mean (as one of my colleagues recently argued) that Jesus is a supporter of taxation and “Big Government”.
(better leave it there for now as I have to cook dinner!)
🙂


Tim Wikiriwhi:
Prodos, I think you have a better grasp than the average Objecitivist because you differ from the average in two aspects.
1. You dont have an innate hatred of religion and so you dont ‘need’ to ‘prove’ it is ‘Evil’… and that gives you a far more objective view when discussing such matters, and (2) this is a corollary (or complimentary) of the fact that you are not afraid to diverge from the Orthodox dogma of the Cult.
Now One of the reasons I accuse Rand of Sophistry is because she trains her disciples to Bastardise the English language by arrogantly abandoning accepted meaning of terms… Re-defining words to mean something other than what they have been historically understood to mean and then proceeds to pretend she can prove the whole world was wrong … *and that she is some sort of Mega-genius* when in fact she is a fraud who has literally re-written the rules.
…often giving terms the very opposite meaning… and most importantly… she has ‘Pre-loaded’ the new meanings so that they will now appear to mathematically add up to the conclusion she wants to achieve… eg ‘that selfishness is now ‘a virtue’…. Objectivists dont even speak the same language… they are disconnected from the historical dialogue and dont even realise they have been swindled… mainly because they share Rands hatred of Christianity and are consumed by their own Egos… and think they too are super geniuses… ‘John Galts’ far above the average savage…. This is not the mentality of ‘Objectivity’… but a type of psychosis that blinds the mind of those who are not aware of what game she is playing.
Now though I know what her nefarious motives were… to discredit Charity… esp religious charity … therefore casting a devious lie to destroy faith in the goodness of Christ and the Christian faith… I can entertain her ‘Revisions’ and understand her silly definitions of ‘Rational selfishness’ vs ‘Irrational selfishness’ …(obviously by her reckoning the historical meaning of selfishness *was this irrational selfishness* and nothing more… not independence… not self-reliance… not self responsibility… and certainly not slavery to the collective!), yet her distortions of Egoism and selfishness, and twisted ideas about altruism as a form of slavery rather than voluntary Individual virtue of charity have contorted the average Objectivists views on Capitalism and Voluntary community Action.
Objectivists are always praising Blatant *Greed*… Rand has crippled their minds so that they are incapable of forming moral arguments that condemn Largess by CEOs at the expense of the well being of the average worker … because the average Objectivist cant understand that simply because a person may have the liberty to act a certain way… that this does not of necessity make it Just, or wise, or of Good character.
Likewise Objectivists tend excuse themselves from supporting worthy voluntary associations and community activities under the pretense that to ‘feel obliged’ to contribute is some sort of ‘psychological slavery’…. yet if any free society is to function it will rely Heavily on exactly these sorts of virtues and voluntarily self imposed moral duty’s.

These are my thoughts on why I suggested that On the Libertarian spectrum I would expect myself to be to the Left of you (Prodos), though I appreciate you are not ‘the average Objectivist’…. yet still your thinking will be ‘coloured’ to some degree by Rands Bents.
I have seen many of your posts that I have enjoyed very much in particular many that could not have been written by the’average Objectivist’ because they are Antireligious-lite… even commending… and that is not a common trait in the Cult.”

******
That is where I’ll finish this dialogue with Prodos.

I think think he is is a very interesting, and intelligent Man… a Champion of Liberty… a Man of Reason… who in my opinion avoids sycophantic Rand worship.
Someone a Christian can have a meaningful discussion with… free of petty conceit.

Despite the fact that Long Blog posts are unpopular, I do need to make one further clarification, and that is to say that though Christianity regards Charity as one of the highest virtues, and that People tend to associate this as a mentality common among left leaning political supporters, that it is a grievous error to automatically assume this means Christians ought to be socialists!
The notion that Christ was a socialist has been around for a long time, yet was systematically propagated and grew predominant among Western Christians in the 20th century when Communists infiltrated the churches and began to systematically sway Christians into supporting socialism… despite their Nations Prosperity,Freedom and capitalism being founded upon Christian protestant political reforms and values of Individual Rights, Private property, Hard work, Thrift, Voluntary charity, Honest Free-trade, etc.

This is quite a complex conundrum to untangle, yet when properly understood the confusion and false teaching gives way to definite clarity and broad understanding.
The Key is to understand the dispensational scheme of the scriptures and how things fit in properly with the plan of God.

Reading the Bible there are verses in the Gospels, and early Acts that appear to the unlearned to support the idea that Jesus was anti-wealth and promoted ‘Communism’… yet such an interpretation fails to take into account what Jesus was offering the Jews at the time, and that these instances… such as when he told the Rich young man to sell all his possessions and give the money to the poor… and follow him… are not representative of the future Kingdom Christ had come to establish but was a special time of transition … from the Kingdom of Mammon… into the Messianic Kingdom of God on Earth whereby these injunctions were tests of worthiness to enter his kingdom… repentance for rebellion and sin… and a willingness to forsake the gains achieved under Mammon.. wealth… power… social status… and to enter the kingdom ‘Naked’… fully trusting that Christ would reward them when he had overthrown the Romans and established his rule in Jerusalem.
And here is the real Jam: Christs Kingdom will not be a Communist Utopia!
There will be private property!
The Lazy will not reap the harvests of the Virtuous and hard working, etc!
So the Important thing to appreciate about Christs Message to the Jews at that time and his injunctions to Sell their possessions, and have all things common, and to Turn the other cheek, and to endure persecution unto the end were not instructive of how his Kingdom would function… but tests of Faith and repentance… ie to be found worthy to enter his Kingdom The Jews had to have faith Plus works!
When this is understood the claim that Jesus promoted Socialism collapses… and is exposed as a wicked false doctrine used to deceive Christians for Evil political ends.
Sadly this False doctrine has been very successful with millions of Deceived Christians voting for Big Government Nanny State socialist Tyranny instead of for Liberty and self responsibility guided by personal ethics.
How Ironic that these Christians fail to see they are unwitting supporting Leviathan… enthroning the all powerful State as God… Mammon!

As this Blog post is already too long I will simply ad links to some of my other Blogposts that go into more detail about Christs Kingdom ministry to the Jews… and how that differs from the Christian Age of Grace that we live in today… which is a different dispensation, and has a different gospel..

Read: REDISCOVERING DISPENSATIONAL TRUTH…EXPOSING THE FRAUDS OF ORTHODOXY ONE FALLACY AT A TIME… PART 1. CHRIST’S GOSPEL.

The Ideals of Freedom and Individual rights was born of Protestantism!
Read: PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY HAD A BABY… LIBERTARIANISM.

I will add a link here to show that true Christian Charity is vastly different from the Atheist pseudo-morality of Socialist Tyranny and the forced redistribution of Wealth via welfare…

Read… REAL VOLUNTARY PRIVATE CHARITY VS THE EVILS OF WELFARE AND POLITICAL FORCE RUFF DRAFT.

And finally below is a Link to a speech I delivered in 2006, at the Tenth anniversary of the now disbanded New Zealand Libertarian party… ‘The Libertarianz’ in which I tried to expound why I thought Rabid Objectivism needed to take a back seat to a more Humane and tolerant activism if the party was to have any hope of success at the polls… as can be seen from the date posted to the blog was in 2012… and I was still very angry about what had happened to the Libertarianz party… I was of the opinion that Objectivism was/ had suffocated the party.
I saw the party as becoming little more than a propaganda machine to further the Atheist Cult of Rand… I had already walked away from it by then.
Fanatical Objectivists have convinced themselves that by coining the phrase ‘Egoism’ that they can escape the the accusations of Egotism! another example of Rand’s Sophistry are work!
Egoism… self worship…they say is the highest Individual character trait!

Read: THE FAILURE OF OBJECTIVIST LIBERTARIANISM.

New Zealand still needs a Libertarian Political Choice… yet if this is ever to rise again lessons need to be learned from the Objectivist Dominated Libertarianz party.
If a New Libertarian party is to rise it cannot become a recruitment tool for the Cult of Objectivism… Rands Philosophy cannot be adopted as the last word on Party Policy… and certainly Objectivist Intolerance towards religious views or Charity… cannot be allowed to set the tone of Party Literature and conduct.
A far more Libertarian and enlightened Character and charter needs to be set and presented to the voting public…one in which Libertarianism is expounded that shows Liberty is far more compassionate and Humane than Socialism ever was… and when you Look a a guy like Prodos Marinakis and his moderated style of Objectivism compared to the Rabid Rand worshiping Egoist and Millitant Atheists… the contrast is stark.
Its the difference between an enlightened and Tolerant, and thinking Libertarian… from an indoctrinated Fanatical Zealot of a God hating Cult of selfish arseholes!


This Caricature of Rand and Objectivism may be an exaggeration yet it is not wholly Unjustified as anyone who has had anything to do with the Objectivist movement will tell you… and you can read about just how delusional Rand was in person by one of her closest and most dedicated disciples… Nathaniel Branden… Read “My Years with Ayn Rand”.
When Judgement day comes for Any Rand she will be exposed as a fraud… In Reality she was not Great at all but a Delusional Woman full of the worst Character traits… and her toxic beliefs bring out the worst in those that are deceived by her.

Fortunately there are some New Zealand Objectivists and Libertarians who share the same virtues as Prodos… those that are prepared to think for themselves more and quote Rand less.
Any New party would need to maintain a separation of the Church of Ayn Rand and State… as much as a separation of any other personal ideology.
This is where hope lies and could be the basis for Cooperation between Libertarians of all persuasions.
Getting things all in their correct context and this way Libertarianism will have a much broader appeal… including winning Christians and others out of Socialism and into supporting Freedom where they ought to be. This will only happen when Egoism, and Atheism, and Selfishness are not the defining traits of the Libertarian party… But Enlightened tolerance and adherence to just principles, equality before the Law, and a desire to downsize Government and abolish unjust tyrannical laws and taxes… “He who governs best… governs least”. Thomas Jefferson.
Maybe sometime soon Kiwi Libertarians can have a Reunion… a few Beers… and talk about what could be… what should be in the near future.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

P.S… Read… THE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP IS A VOLUNTARY PRIVATE SOCIETY, NOT A THEOCRATIC POLITICAL MOVEMENT.

And… STANDING UP FOR JUSTICE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PERSONAL AMBITIONS

More from Tim…

MATERIALISM RENDERS MAN NOUGHT. MEANING-LESS, VALUE-LESS, RIGHT-LESS

WE ARE NOT ROBOTS AYN RAND. WE ARE MORAL AGENTS.

MONISM: EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY AND THE DEATH OF MORALITY, REASON AND FREEWILL.

SICK PUPPIES.

I think Satan’s existence is a Logical necessity … I Challenge you to Change my mind. (Good God/Evil World part 8)

The following argument has been in my mind for decades… ever since I was converted from Atheism to Bible believing Christianity.
I am not a trained academic or Logician myself, Yet have attempted to solicit dialogue on my conjectures from several ‘Trained academics’ yet so far have had no response.
Thus I have never received any Rebuttal that might dissuade me from my conclusion… simple Atheist assertions that ‘God does not exist… or Satan does not exist’ are not arguments but groundless (and in my opinion erroneous) claims, and this post will attempt to prove the idea that even if I cant say Satan’s existence today is knowable… that at one point back in history of all reality… his existence was a certainty.

The following is an expanded form of my assertion, just to lay down the framework/ context of my contentions plainly.
That I say Satan’s existence is a Logical necessity is based upon the Title Jesus Christ called Satan… “The Father of Lies”… ie Satan *invented Lies* and deception… or at least he was the first *to actually lie*… and this brings up the principle of non-materialist *Free will*.

Christ calls himself… The Way… *The Truth* and the life and the Bible says that *all things were created by him and for him*, and many Infidels who cannot get past their notions of Determinism therefore argue that ‘if the God exists… then *God himself* is responsible even for Satan’s lies… because God made Satan, yet as I have already said they are unable to accept any notion of any created being having autonomous free-will that may differ from the ultimate will of God himself.

Yet the concept of Free will is fundamental to Christian Morality… It permeates the whole Bible from the very Beginning when God commanded Adam not to eat of the forbidden fruit, and it is what makes us *morally culpable* for our own actions while exonerating God for giving us the Liberty to make choices … for good or ill.

“…And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Gen 2)

The Fallen Angel Satan entered the garden and deceived Eve… Adam then chose to disobey the commandment of God Almighty and ate of the Forbidden fruit… and then tried to blame God for what happened by saying “… And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.” (Gen 3vs 12)

Yet God was not responsible for Adams choice to mistrust and disobey God… even though God did create *the possibility* for Adam to so choose… It was Adam who was the free will moral Agent who made the choice and that is why Adam was morally culpable… and God without blame.
God is completely within his right to so order his creations of both the Angels and Humanity with the *potential to sin against him*… Not making us *mere robots*… but True *Children* whose love and ongoing obedience to his Divine rule is not something imposed upon us by our nature… but something *real* and special… and moral… none the less this requires having so ordered things that *the potential to rebel against God* was an inescapable necessity to the dynamic of being able to freely submit to his Sovereignty.

So Like the temptation of Mt Everest in the distance calling vain Men to their doom… trying and Conquer its peak… so to Did God create *the potential for Evil*… for Rebellion… yet that was only as a counterpoise for Freewill love and submission.. not because he *wanted* anyone to rebel… yet still to have *Loving Children* rather than Robots… God Deemed this risk to be worth it… and their would be few honest people who would prefer to be like Ants… wholey driven by their instincts and physical drives, than to be as they are… with Freewill to determine their own lives and activities… Taking credit for their own virtues and successes.

Now I have laid out the groundwork, I can address the main point of which the Title of this post… God Created The Highest Heaven… God Created The Holy Angels and that was When Satan was ‘Lucifer’… the highest Angel in that Order of beings.
I have already explained that God created them with Freewill and gave them the scope to exercise this essential component of their being for which they were created.
An unknown length of ‘time’ passes, and then God Created ‘the Heavens and the Earth'(yet not Mankind)…. and it was sometime after this that Lucifer became jealous of God… and desired to be worshiped… and that is when Evil grew in his ‘heart’ and he chose to Rebel against God.
This is when Satan decided to start telling lies… To corrupt many of his fellow angels into following him instead of God Almighty.
So While the *potential to tell lies* had always existed in counterpoise to being able to tell the truth…. Satan was the first Being to *ever exercise* that potential… he became ‘The father of Lies’.

and it is here that I now posit my Logical challenge… We exist in a reality in which *Telling lies* is a fundamental fact of Human existence… liars exist… Down here on Earth Lies are a currency as often traded in as the truth, which of necessity raises the question… who… in the entire existence of all reality… was the first being to ever tell a lie?
We know that because lies exist today that somewhere someone back in eternity past *must have been the first Lying being*… and it is this Being The Bible calls *Satan*… the Father of Lies.
Satan is therefore a Logical necessity!
And Satan is the Being responsible for Bringing All Evils into the world… even though We as Freewill moral agents are responsible for our own choices to follow Satan’s lies rather than trust in God Almighty.
This is a fundamental Dynamic to our existence!

Change my mind!

Satan Laughing… spreads his wings.

Some Atheists may say… “The father of Lies must have been a human being”… I admit that this ‘Idea’ is worth contemplating… yet when you consider that there is virtual universal consensus on the conjecture that the Human race has not existed for very long… and that even the Earth has not existed for ever… and that Most Atheists also harbour Ideas that we are probably not the only intelligent beings in the universe ( that this is a belief for which they dont have any more *Physical evidence* for such alien beings than I do for Satan seems to escape them… they base their conjectures on no more firm unproven rationale than I do for mine)… yet still does not their own conjectures make the notion that ‘the father of lies’ must have been a Human being uncertain?
Could not *another being* that pre-dates Humanity have told the first lie? (He would then be Satan!)

And then Atheists have an even greater problem… *How lies*… or even *telling the truth*… can even be concepts… if we exist in a Purely Materialistic Reality in which everything is inextricably locked into a chain of physical causation right back to the big bang?

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.
Dispensationalist.
King James Bible believer.

More from Tim….

THE GOSPEL OF GOD’S GRACE.

CHRIST’S WORK OF SALVATION ON THE CROSS… THE GREAT EQUALISER.

THE OBJECTIVE REALITY OF HELL. SUBJECTIVE WHIM VS BELIEF IN HEINOUS THINGS: A DIALOGUE.

WHEN THE ACCUSER COMES CALLING…TRUST IN THE LORD’S GOOD CHARACTER…TRUST IN HIS WORD. (GOOD GOD/EVIL WORLD PART 7)

The Rock of Divine Revelation.

Death of an Atheist. Follow the evidence.

THEN COMETH SATAN…. “YEA HATH GOD SAID…?” AND IT CAME TO PASS…. THE BIBLE IS TRUSTWORTHY AND CARRIES THE AUTHORITY OF GOD ALMIGHTY. BELIEVE IT! DON’T LET EDUCATED FOOLS LEAD YOU TO DESTRUCTION.

GOOD FRIDAY 16: WHEN FRIENDS WHO ONCE WERE FUN AND COOL BECOME ANNOYING NAGGING CHRISTIANS!

Life and Death. Hope and Happiness. A Tribute to Rev John Steele Clark.

How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? (part1) Atheist Nihilism.

How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? (part 2) The Thirst for Blood.

Horror stories. How can a Good God exist when there is so much Evil in the world? (Part 3)

How can a Good God exist when there is so much Evil in the world? (Part 4) Interlude.

Seether: Know Thyself. How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? Part 5.

‘Good Atheists’ and the seriousness of sin. Good God/Evil world. 6

Hell is for the Self Righteous, Heaven is for Sinners.

The Gospel of God’s Grace.

The hope which is In Christ. Terrible grief shall be turned into great joy!

Car Crash.

We are not Robots Ayn Rand. We are Moral Agents.

Monism: Evolutionary Psychology and the Death of Morality, Reason and Freewill.

The Rusty Cage: Scientism.

Defunct / Archaic Western Dogma blindly insists : ‘Whatever does not fit the Naturalistic Materialist Paradigm is Illusory’. Entity Attacks

The Lies of Atheist Pseudo Science.

Pasteur’s Law, Creation Science vs Nose Bone Atheism.

Biomimicry… Plagiarizing God’s designs.

Sick Puppies.

Thorns in the Flesh.

Rapturous Amazement! The Advance of Science Converts The High Priest of Atheism to Deism. A Flew.

The Walls are closing in on Atheism… not Theism.

Faith, Science, and Reason. The Pomposity of Atheism.

Materialism renders Man Nought. Meaning-less, Value-less, Right-less
Dispensational Truth. 2Timothy2vs15, Ephesians 3vs1-9

Willful Ignorance and the Limits of human reason (without Divine Revelation.)

The Atheist delusion. David Berlinski

“Has anyone provided proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close. Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close. Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close. Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough. Has rationalism and moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough. Has secularism in the terrible 20th century been a force for good? Not even close, to being close. Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy in the sciences? Close enough. Does anything in the sciences or their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even in the ball park. Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.”
David Berlinski

“If somebody says something to me particularly stupid, yet they say it with Proper Grammar… Then I immediately assume the following…What Graduate school did you attend?…”
Dennis Prager.
“The Chaotic forces have taken over education…”
Watch this great video (below)

Night of the Long Knives: SJWs Running the Internet are silencing critics and systematically undermining free and fair elections on a global scale

When Donald Trump beat Hillary Clintion and started dismantling Obama’s Fascist agenda shockwaves rippled trough the Internet.
Why?
Because the Political Candidate that the Admins of Google+Youtube, Twitter, and facebook endorsed and wanted to win (Hillary Clinton) lost!… and they realised that their own creations were a primary cause for their own defeat, and they took the Trump victory as such horror they envisioned the end of the Socialist Dream and Human Civilisation!
All their hard work deceiving the world into embracing Climate Change.
All their hard work imposing their anti-christian views on sexuality, all their dreams of a Global centralized Socialist Government etc looked like they were going to be set back 20 years…
This is when they abandoned any pretense to respect for free speech and open dialogue and determined that *Next US election* they would be better prepared to shut down political debates that were not in their own interests… and not just US elections… but they would control information on the Global scale.
Google searches will Bury Websites, blogs, memes, photos, and articles that are anti-left agenda, and would instead put pro left propaganda to the fore.
Facebook will simply axe whole pages they see as being anti-left platforms for their opponents, create Alogorithms that can read memes, and hunt out and automatically ban photos, memes, articles that have been flagged by their SJW minions and spies that infest the internet and political forums.
This is more than just the usual vetting of malicious content… its a massive escalation of definite suppression of dissenting opinions to the political views of these Social Media/ Internet Mogals.
A flexing of mussel designed to slope the playing field, giving massive advantage to their own opinions, to the degree that they will be manipulating the democratic process as surely and effectively as any tyrannical Government censorship.
And Facebook is not an absolutely ‘Free enterprise’. as Governments have heavily invested in Facebook shares.

Read: Facebook has created an AI that can understand memes

To those of us whom understand the essential nature of having open dialogue, Alarm bells began to ring out when this Cabal of Internet Lords, all Banned Alex Jones and his ‘Info wars’… virtually wiping him off the map.
Jones was instrumental in the Trump victory as one of his most ardent supporters with a large global audience, and attacking Hillary Clinton as a Criminal and traitor.
Jones would talk daily on Items of importance… like the Bundy ranch resistance to the BLM, The Murder of Lavoy Finicm by The Black opps ‘Hostage rescue team’… things the mainstream media refused to Air.
The Mainstream media and Hollywood are also largely under control of Rabid Lefty Nutbars and they too engage in a program of keeping the sheeple in the dark.

Read this article from Reason: Facebook Slams Independent Voices With Latest Political Purge

Now I wont deny that Alex Jones says and does some pretty whack things, and that many of the ‘Investigative reports’ on Infowars are considered by many to be nothing but delusional conspiracies and ‘Fake news’.
Also I am a person who is myself disgusted by all the patently dishonest content on the internet flowing from legions of sites and blogs, and individuals with very bent opinions about everything… many of who mass produce Photo-shopped images, and fabricate patent lies about their political enemies… and in this dirty business it is the Right who i say are the chief offenders, and in this sence it should not be surprising that this mass-dishonesty by the Right has added fuel to the rage harboured by the Liberal Internet giants, it has also given them the pretext to begin their heavy censorship program… feigning a legitimacy to their Machiavellian schemes… and they used the notorious Alex Jones as a posterchild for what was about to follow.

Then Zuckerburg made his move and shut down 800+ facebook pages with millions of followers… mostly Anti-liberal agenda sites… under the pretext that these sites prosper from and disseminate fake news.
There was no warning… no discussion… it was a Night of the long knives action… fast, clean, and soon to be forgotten… while normalising the Idea that Anti-liberal opinion is ‘Hate speech’ and ‘fake news’and as such can rightfully be suppressed.
Of Course these actions would have caused Champagne to flow like water among the Lefty Parties, and hordes of Purple haired social justice warriors who have zero respect for any notions of fairness, free speech, etc and whose whole political means of action involves Compulsions and prohibitions.

This is the new puddle of stink that we all must now swim in… the Internet has changed… dramatically for the worst. Freedom is the victim. Satan Laughing spreads his wings!
And this is just the beginning… they will come for the Christians, They will come for the Mens Rights groups, They will come for the likes of The Leuren Sotherns and Stephan moloneuxs … who dare to challenge the Anti white propaganda of the left….. and Libertarians and bloggers like myself.
And just as insidious will be the *fear* this activity will generate among internet users who witnesswill drastically reduce what they share, and what they dare to say fearing that their pages could be shut down without redress at the whims of Facebook administrators…. All it takes is for a single Nasty purple haired Female SJW to ‘take offence’ at a comment or post that they dont like and to report you to the FB gestapo.

As a Passionate Voice of Dissent against Ideological evils and activities of both the Right and the left I have suffered an increasing number of these types of attacks, despite being vigilant and quickly blocking people who make it clear to me they are a SJW and are ‘Triggered’ by something I have said.
I have learned to move quickly to their profile and block them… hopefully before they have run to the Gestapo… one time I was too slow, a Joke I told on a Mushroom Identification page ‘Triggered’ a Purple hair thing (I wont assume her gender 🙂 ) and I was sent to Facebook Jail… for telling a joke!
This is not equal treatment but special privilege!
You can tell jokes about how Dumb Men are… but not any jokes about Transgenders, or SJW Neofeminists, etc…. another recent case was when I was commenting on an ENFJ Briggs-Meyers personality type page (I took the test and it said I was ENFJ Type) , and my comment was on the topic of Briggs-Meyers when some Purple-hair thing told me flat I was not an ENFJ because she had seen my previous profile pic and because it was a Meme-joke that mocked Neo-feminism… this was all the proof she needed that I was too ‘insensitive’ to be a member of *Her caring personality type!*
(The offending Picture Below)…

I dont have time to explain in detail what then transpired … it is enough to say a bunch more SJW Woman showed up and within a day of this, I had been thrown out of the group, and had my picture reported to Facebook whom quickly said It violated Facebook community standards and was Deleted.
Remember that I was not even discussing politics at the time this Attack started.
It was simply enough that It was my profile pic that the SJWs had taken offence to and got me thrown out and reported to the Facebook Gestapo.

^ This is what a SJW Feminazi looks like.

One more example I must share, It will take some explanation, yet it is worth it because it is very telling about how frightening things have become at facebook… and how powerful are their methods to screen everything that everyone is saying, and to crush anything that goes against their agenda, while leaving any BS that serves their purposes.
Below is another pic I shared in one of my photo albums, that is actually an example of despicable Right wing doctoring aimed at provoking anti-left sentiment. And they specialise in this particular type of photo doctoring that changes the message on a Protesters placard.

This one above is the Doctored picture. The one below is the original

Now it is only obvious to see that this picture has been doctored when you see the original, and I was taking it at face value, and had shared it to my page, when I read in the comments that followed that this was Doctored and the original was provided.
Of course I was peeved at this deception, It was not the first time I had gullibly shared a picture that had been doctored by the Right, and so Determined not to be so easily fooled again!
I noticed a pattern in these deceptive placard pictures that is also a dead giveaway for fake News articles in that if the Picture is too overt… or the Headlines of the ‘Newspiece’ is also way over the top’… then it is highly likely these things are manufactured Propaganda designed to doop the naive, and generate outrage.
Of course this should have been obvious to me before I had shared these things… yet It just goes to show how successful these dirty tricks can be.
Pissed off at the dirty tactics of the Right this time I created a photo album with the title of ‘The Right is as full of Dirty Liars as the left.’… and it featured this doctored picture, and I placed a description with it that said “I foolishly shared this photo thinking it was a *Real self-loathing white Lefty*… which it actually is… *Yet the message has been photoshopped by a dirty bastard Right winger who added in ‘Killing all’.
This is despicable deception… the sort that has ruined the internet… filled it with lies!
Designed to generate outrage and hate….”
I also shared the un-doctored Original so that my readers could see the obvious doctoring (photo shopping)
All was great… I was starting to populate my new album with more examples of these despicable Right wing deceptions when My Page was frozen by an automated program that had detected the doctored pic and told me that my Picture violated facebook standards.
Remember I had not put this pic in my album to *Spread the lie* but to expose the lie… yet the automation did not give a toss about that! It was simply ‘obeying za orders’ programmed into it to search and destroy this pic where ever it had been posted in Facebook.
I was however given the option to ask for a review… which I clicked… and was told this process would take about 24 hours… anyway much to my surprise my picture was restored!
And it was accompanied with the reply that the Review process found that my pic *Did not breach facebook standards* and that they had made a mistake!
Now it is not a long bow to draw that my picture had been reviewed by a living breathing Liberal SJW Facebook censor who realised I was using this picture to put the hate on the Right wingers… whom Facebook are trying to destroy… and so all of a sudden this picture was acceptable!!!!

All of a sudden it Did not breach their community standards!
This shows they are patently discriminating against the Right, while giving anything that is anti-right licence to kill! and has nothing to do with ‘Community standards’ at all!
And This copy remains as we speak in my photo album for the world to see!
Yet when I try and share it from my album, It gets sniped again by the search and destroy algorithm!
You can try this… copy the pic above and share it on your page and I guarantee you will get a visit from the Killbot.
I have also received links to reports that Facebook has been developing the software to screen *Every picture and meme* that gets posted… so they have absolute control to censor everything and anything, and that this is what they are doing.
I have had other attacks to my page too that affect my ability to function as a Libertarian Advocate and critic, yet this will suffice.
Multiply all this by Billions of times and the net effect this will have on the democratic process of western societies is mind numbing to apprehend!
The Masses of Facebook sheeple will be receiving more and more propaganda of the Left… with less and less voices of descent.
I fully expect to have my page shut down in the near future, yet until then I will be exposing this corruption!

Now this post is already ridiculously long, and maybe no one will read it yet I must make one final point… and it has to do with the solution to this Tyranical Cabal of Left wing Internet monsters.
First of all it is worrisome that many who suffer the oppression of the Facebook Gestapo will run straight to *Their Governments* asking them to pass legislation to take away the ‘evil powers’ from these Liberals who are hell bent on manipulating the public and the election processes of western nations.
They will probably say this is a perfect example of the need to implement *Antitrust legislation* to break up these massive companies into smaller chunks that are supposed to then work in competition with one another instead of collusion… Yes The Government regulators will save us!!!
Nope.
That will be to leap out of the frying pan… into the fire!
You see *Internet Tyranny and control* is in fact something Western Socialist Democratic States have been dreaming of accomplishing *for themselves!*
The result will not be greater freedom of speech… but simply a shift of power from private hands into the Governments.
They will not simply legislate to break up Facebook, Google, etc, but will also legislate to make all sorts of internet communications illegal… and so instead of merely being thrown in ‘virtual jail’ as happens now… there is every probability that we will begin to be thrown in *Real jail* simply for expressing our own opinions (it is already happening!).
The Real solution is for some smart entrepreneurs and programmers to understand what is going on and to take steps to capitalise on the massive outrage that is being generated by the prejudices of the current internet giants, and to develop alternative social media sites and search engines… ones that have Iron clad security, and that have a constitution/ code of ethics to be what all ‘Free Press’ are supposed to be… the Vanguards of Freedom… of equal rights… of free speech!
And when this happens and people realise that there are far better places to do business than Facebook and Google… their power will be broken… their stocks will crash… and their reign of terror will be over.
This can be done without surrendering anything to Governments.
It will take time.
I have already signed up to MeWe social media site as an interim bolthole should my facebook page get axed, yet I have herd rumours of far better and secure social media site are in development as we speak!
Something called ‘Chain-blocking’ which is gibberish to me, yet my geeky friends assure me its very snazzy and will be awesome when it arrives!
And this is the Free market in action… and to the rescue!
The despicable tyrants running Youtube, Facebook, Google, have sown the seeds of their own destruction, and I hope the creators of these better sites are not only more ethical… which will be their greatest marketing strategy they could aspire to… but also that they become super wealthy from their creations that will go a long way towards halting the diabolical evils of Liberals Fascists in high places.

While I in no way fully endorse Donald Trump, I will say that By Defeating Hillary Clinton Trump saved America from a very very dangerous socialist tyrant.
And Donald Trump is by far a more honest, and just President than the despicable and psychotic Hillary Clinton who fully endorsed everything that Barack Obama did… they conspired together, and was poised to take things to the next level.
Thankfully the American people had had enough of their Diabolical and treasonous Agenda that was trying to destroy American Values, Rights,and freedom and force everyone into embracing Anti-Christian depravity and delusions… Grown men… perverts…. mentally ill allowed in Little girls Toilets!

Trumps victory has in fact caused the left to become even more psychotic… things are getting progressively worse… not just on line, but on the streets, and how Law and order is now being implemented.
The destroyers like violent Fascists groups like Antifa can cause riots etc with impunity, while anyone who tries to physically defend themselves will get arrested. Critics of the Left get their speeches cancelled, etc etc… there is a war against Freedom going on and its getting very violent.
It is becoming dangerous to oppose the psychotic Left.

^ here we see a guy in court who dared belong to a group called ‘Proud boys’. He was labeled a ‘member of a ‘hate group’ and a White Supremacist… even though he is married to a black woman and has black kids!
And you can guarantee it was Antifa who threw the first punch.
We all know their moto ‘Punch a fascist’… how Ironic… Today a Communist is just a Transgenderised Fascist!
Fascism in Drag.

Is this the world you wish your children to inherit?
If not… DO SOMETHING!
At least Like and share my blogposts!
Get active!

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

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LIZZY MARVELLY: SEX GODDESS, SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR, AND PROFESSIONAL VICTIM.

Jacinda Ardern: High On Tax Crack. Heavy Taxation and the Growth of Poverty in New Zealand.

Poverty is growing in New Zealand.
Suicide is too.
Financial stress is destroying families.

With the heavy oppression I face from the Tax department, only two things prevent me from becoming a dangerous enemy of the state… rather than a passive victim.
1. My responsibility as a husband and Father to put their immediate well-being ahead of my need for vengeance.
2. My Christian faith that abhors violence… even against those who deserve it… yet the restraints of these two factors have limits… I ask myself at what point does it become the Christian and Fatherly Duty to take up arms and wage war against a tyrannical State?
Anyone here remember the words of the American Declaration of Independence and why America was born?
Nah.

How many struggling families receive Threatening letters about arbitrary ‘Debts’ from The New Zealand tax department each week?
How many self employed people are bankrupted by the IRD… or loose everything they have worked years to gain?

There is a crisis going on!

What will it take to stop the Legalised Robbery?
The Government makes Organised crime look like amateurs!

So far my Activism has been Peaceful and reason based… like the Gospel… an appeal to the hearts and minds of my fellow citizens… Yet the Jackboots of the state are kicking at my door…. like Extortionate Gangsters.

They are destroying the lives of the virtuous and hard working.

Yet the *real sad truth is* it is *you*…. my fellow countrymen who continue to vote for the Rapacious Extortioners… and their ever growing addiction to expropriation.

You vote for the Theft… You support the Media personalities who encourage the IRD to take more… and more…

How many more homeless people will have to die in gutters? how many suicides and broken families will loose everything before you realise that it is the Jack booted Government *itself* that is by far the greatest threat to your lives and family?
Every Tax hike pushes more Families towards crisis.
Nonetheless like a runaway juggernaut the Government and Councils are having meetings about the country scheeming more ‘innovative’ ways to take our money for their whack schemes!
Tax is Crack Cocaine to Socialist addicts like Ardern.


The pic above is the sort of ‘editorial’ that passes for wisdom in New Zealand when it is nothing short of absolute falcehoods and propaganda designed to ‘soften up’ the masses into accepting new and higher Taxes!
They peddle the lie that higher taxes will bring greater prosperity!
They peddle that great Lefty lie that those with property have not contributed ‘their share’ to society!
Tolerance towards this sort of sycophancy in the media in New Zealand is outrageous!
How Journos and editors can get away with such one eyed lies is a testament to how lobotomized our population is(thanks state education).
The so called ‘Free Press’ have failed in their Duty as the vanguard against tyranny.
Read : Lost Plot. World Press Freedom Day.

and… Spiel on brain washing, and socialist engines of confomity. State education.

We are expected to maintain composure while being fleeced… to suffer in silence… to maintain the Delusions that higher Taxes are Good, Justified, enlightened, when in reality by far greatest cause of Poverty in this country is Socialist over-government and heavy taxation.
No matter how hard I work… or how many thousands of dollars I withhold from my family and give to the beast… no matter how many Holidays I forego… They still send me threatening letters telling them I owe them tens of thousands more….
How many of you are working yourselves to death… forego Medical attention for yourself… yet suffer sleepless nights, and whose only Forlorn hope is to win lotto?

They take the Joy out of life and keep families on the edge of poverty at all times. (A Habitat of Envy and want under which white horse riding socialist Scammers flourish… )

For the Grace of God People…. Wake up!!!!
Stop worshiping evil Idiots like Jacinda Ardern!
The Labour Party is not the friend of the worker!
She is *not* a heroic leader… she is a Thief and a bully.
She’s a sexist, Racist hypocrite…
A Gangster.
Why she (and her ilk) are in power is because *her* sexism… *her* Racism… *her* hypocrisy… and *Her Economic delusions* all are of the popular variety.
She’s a Retard…. Captaining a ship of Fools.

Of course the problem is bigger than Jacinda’s Regime… Its Ideological and systemic… she’s just the latest Demagogue to wield the flail.
The real problem for Modern civilization is in the unfathomable void… the monumental sheepish ignorance of our systemically lobotomised voting populations.

You Useful Idiots still believe socialists care?

What sort of Slavery are we bequeathing to our children?
Speak now or forever hold your piece… pun intended.

Tim Wikiriwhi

Politically Homeless Libertarian Slave of the State.

Too late! The Evils that Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux want to warn us about…. are already here.

To be edited…


Lauren Southern is everything The Lefty Liberal Retards despise!
Men think She’s smokin Hot!
She loves Guns.
She hates Feminism.
And she is a vocal critic of Lefty Liberal Immigration policies.

Banned from Entering New Zealand!

One of the greatest dangers to the conservation of Western culture that Southern and Molyneux want to come to New Zealand to warn us about are those that stem from allowing a large influx of migrants and Refugees…from a starkly different culture.
Migrants who have no intention of assimilating their host nations culture or values and fervently harbour anti-Western ideas… such as outlawing critics of their religion … and that accommodating these alien ideas will spell the end of the Religious liberty we have enjoyed …founded upon tolerance and equality.
This should not be a surprise to anyone… and obviously measures need to be in place to protect the degrading of our rights and Liberties.
The price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance… Our Heritage of Liberty and tolerance needs to be rigorously defended!

Well… Sadly… We see that the Islamic community in New Zealand already has leadership that thinks nothing of lobbying government to prevent speakers coming here they perceive as being critics of Islam!
And we already have Liberal Politicians who have zero respect for conserving Western culture more than willing to accommodate them!
*And that* is the *Real problem*… because in any society there will always be Petty Groups… and even malevolent groups who desire Laws that circumvent the rights and liberties of others… the problem happens when they are able to move Legal/Political powers to enact their anti-liberty desires.

Does anyone appreciate the Irony of this situation?
The arguments of Southern and Molyneux are being validated before our very eyes!
Is it already too late?
Has the sun already begun to set on Freedom and religious toleration in New Zealand?
I think so!
It is proven that even ‘Moderate’… Cosmopolitan forms of Islam (if that is what the ‘New Zealand Federation of Islam’ claims to be) are organisations dedicated to destroying Western ideals about personal Freedom… and enjoying life in a free and open society… Co-existing in peace based upon Ironclad Rights and liberties.
They want their religion (Islam) to be shielded from critique.

“She’s just going to insult all of us”

The Islamic community voiced their opposition to the visit last month.

New Zealand Federation of Islam Associations president Hazim Arafeh said it had written letters to the Immigration Minister, Minister for Ethnic Communities and the Human Rights Commission asking for Lauren Southern to be denied entry.

“[She] abuses her right of freedom of speech. She’s just going to give a talk in which she’s just going to insult all of us,” Mr Arafeh said.

“I don’t think insulting Muslims comes under free speech, that’s an abuse of freedom of speech.

“I’m talking on behalf of 50,000 to 60,000 Muslims in New Zealand who are going to face a very hard time by all the comments she is going to make.”

Source: https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/361220/far-right-pair-banned-from-speaking-at-auckland-council-venues-phil-goff

This says it all.

And the Anti-Western Commy Mayor of Auckland Phil Goff tweeted….

We see Goff quick to capitalize on this opportunity for extreme left ‘Virtue signalling’ that was not to be missed… under the pretense that the planned Speaking tour was ‘Divisive’.

Notice how on one hand we get Western Liberals applauding when their politically appointed partisan Judges insist Christian Bakers must accommodate Customers who want ‘Gay Wedding Cakes’… yet also these same hypocritical Ideologues then suggest it is a Right to exercise conscience *not to allow Southern and Molyneux use of Public facilities paid for by all Ratepayers… irrespective of Race, religion, or cultural heritage!
We can be certain that the council has in the past happily allowed its Publicly owed venues for such Radical Racists as
This is clear discrimination by the state in both counts… and on both counts it displays an agenda to suppresses the Religious liberty of the Cultural conservatives for the sake of pandering to the Anti-religious liberty sentiments of various sectors of our society.


Stephan Molyneux is also everything the Lefty Liberal SJW Retards love to hate.
Hes a Man… (Patriarchal Privilege)
He’s White… (White privilege)
He’s a defender of Western Values.
He’s unapologetic for any of that!

Banned from Entering New Zealand!

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For The record let it be known that I have been very outspoken about what I didn’t like about Trumps Anti-refugee Electioneering… and I have defended the humanitarian urgency with regard to the plight of the Syrian refugees… and so I am not a person who endorses all the sentiments of Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux… yet it has been waay too easy for a biased press to wheel out Prejudiced academics like the so-called ” Massey University far-right expert and vice chancellor Paul Spoonley …. saying some of what the pair say was considered hate speech and labeling them as ‘Far Right extremists’… when in reality Southern and Molyneux are very mainstream Western Conservatives… not Rightist radicals at all.

The last time I remember anything like this was when New Zealanders were denied opportunity to listen to the arguments of Holocaust denier and Historian David Irving… a Man who was later jailed for the crime of having an opinion contrary to The Politicians and academics of Europe.

Now This is no joke!
Not a triffilng matter… not a victory for Social progress… but a plunge into the abyss!
In England, an act of unworthy of any Civilized Free society an associate of Lauren Southern … Journalist Tommy Robinson… was marched straight to jail… without normal due process… because he desired to expose the legal Travesties going on in British courts by which Muslim rapists escape justice that would be meted out to any other demographic!
So on one hand people who balk against the Liberal’s PC agenda are criminalised and thrown in jail pronto while the system panders to *Real Criminals* in the misguided idea that Britain ought to accommodate the anti-western cultures of Non-citizens!

The Ultra Right parties are definitely on the rise in Europe… taking advantage of the chaos and disorder that has ensued because of Weak governments management of the Refugee Crisis, yet it is not *Ultra right* to protest against this Politically Correct travesty *but Conservatism*… yet because the principles and arguments that oppose all this Lefty Garbage may be broadly understood as ‘Libertarian’… this makes it easy for Lefty academics and politicians to label these ideas as ‘Far Right’… which is where these charlatans have always lumped Libertarians… as if they are Nazis!
And the Dopey shepple believe these lies.
Libertarians are as opposed to Rightist Fascism as they are opposed to Lefty Communism … and for the very same reasons… both forms of socialism… on the left and right … are all about totalitarianism… and both trample underfoot the rights and liberties of Individuals… Destroying lives… filling Prisons… and pounding anyone who will not comply into the ground.

And we have Bold speakers here in New Zealand … ‘Maori Holocaust deniers’ like Bruce Moon and John Ansell who dare to contradict the ‘Official History’ of the British colonization of New Zealand as being systematic oppression of The Maori people.
Unlike David Irving… Moon and Ansell have history on their side!
The revisionism is the 100% propaganda of the Lefty academics and radicals, yet tt is not a very long march from Banning Foreign speakers… to jailing our citizens who critisise our own governments views.
This is where all this is heading.
Had David Irving been allowed to come here and talk it is highly unlikely he would have persuaded anyone that the German Holocaust against the Jews did not happen!
And at the risk of a few nutballs swallowing a few delusions… the principle of free speech is far to precious to be surrendered!

Read my Blog on the failure of European Governments to keep the peace Here: The Art of Assimilation. Culture shock, Lawlessness, and the challenges facing humanitarian good will


Lefty Liberal SJW Mayor of Auckland.

Lefty Politicians Like Phil Goff’s Labour Party… and the Greens that are infested with Purple haired ‘Social Justice Warrior’ Lunatics… most of whom are confused about their own sexuality…harbor a deep repugnance for New Zealand’s Western Christian Heritage, and this being so we see a stark prejudice against Christian values, to the degree that we can be sure that They would not pander to any ‘Christian Lobby’ that would be silly enough to Demand people like Richard Dawkins or Neil deGrasse Tyson be denied visas ‘Because they insult Christianity’… etc.
The Hypocrisy of the left stinks to high heaven!
I believe that if there is any organised protest against this travesty preventing Southern and Molyneux for coming here and talking that all liberty loving Kiwi should endevour to be there… even if you do not endorse what they represent as this not simply about supporting what these individual want to say… Its a much BIGGER and FAR MORE IMPORTANT MATTER!
Its about telling our Government they have no right to shut down Dissenters who peacefully expound Ideas that are contrary to the governments Agenda!
We Kiwi have the right to invite such people… and to listen to what they have to say… and to make up our own minds about such things!
It is Dangerous to allow the government to control what we hear, Read, watch, etc!
This is Fundamental to living in a free society!
Any society that looses this is in grave peril… and will have jails filled with political prisoners… and I am not just talking about Hell holes like North Korea!
The Lefty Liberals about the Globe are fast eroding our rights and Freedom… fast pandering to intolerance… in the name of tolerance!

The Great Evil Anti-free speech Liberal doctrine is of course the the Deception of ‘Hate Speech’ by which any critisism of anything… any group… any idea… may be construed as being ‘Hate speech’… esp if such criticism goes against the Agenda of the ruling party.
And of course The Right to Free speech especially matters when people what to say *unpopular things*… because that when intolerant people and vested interests… who have no recourse to reasoned arguments… seek to shut them down by Legalised force.

If This travesty is allowed to pass without protest you can count New Zealand as being one of the most petty Nations on Earth!
A Lefty Liberal S#!t hole!
And next They will Ban Christian speakers who are opposed to Abortion… Or Whom have opposed Gay Marriage…. or Hippies who advocate the end of the war on Drugs!
Etc Etc….

Now though I am a Christian Libertarian, I have no problems with Peaceful Muslims immigrating here… and I have advocated we accept far more Muslim refugees from such Humanitarian Crisis as the Syrian war… yet these people can only come here under the strict condition that they will obey our Laws and respect our Rights and Liberties!
They have no legitimate right to start lobbying the government to pass Laws that infringe upon our legitimate freedoms… or to expect special treatment.
As long as they peacefully go about their own business their is no reason why they cannot carry on enjoying their own culture and beliefs, yet if there is an in-congruence between their culture and that of their hosts… if anyone must culturally change and assimilate… it is the Immigrant… and refuge… not the Citizens of the host country.
If this condition is unacceptable to them… they should leave.

Like Citizens… They may voice their disagreements… yet they certainly dont have the legitimate right to lobby Government to Ban speakers whom are critics of Islam… any more that I have the right to lobby Government to ban critics of Christianity!
If I dont like what some speakers are saying I can ignore them… or take the opportunity to present a rational argument as to why they are in error… or challenge them to Public debate… or if I feel the need I may organise *A Peaceful* and civilized demonstration rally… Yet The Idea that certain speakers may be prevented from holding their meetings because of threats of violence from intolerant groups is absolutely unforgivable!
It is the Governments Job to see to it that Law and order prevails against such thuggery… and that the right to free speech be upheld… against the barbarians who think violence is the way to suppress their critics… rather than civilised debate…
Failure of Government to see to it that Controversial speakers are well guarded… and that the events take place is to let the Mob Rule!

And again we see that it is *The Wacko* Lefties with their ‘Social Justice Warriors’… ‘Antifa’, etc who have no qualms about resorting to Violent protest… rioting… and vandalism.
These things are crimes… not protests… and the Criminals should be thrown in Jails… and be made to pay for any property damage they cause.
They are the most likely to send Death threats, etc
In no way are they like the principled protests of Martin Luther King and his civil Rights movement, and ought to placed in stark contrast to them.
Even when engaged in ‘civil disobedience’… They were Never violent… never destructive of property… never angry… but full of Love and high ideals… and they won!
In those days it was the Separatist Status Quo who wanted to shut them down and prevent King and co from speaking… and whom resorted to violence!
Never should the Dialogue on sensitive issues be allowed to be hijacked by Political vested interests or the Mob.

Now I am not suggesting that the Islamic Federation of New Zealand is ‘a hotbed of radical Islam’ hell bent on turning New Zealand into an Islamic Caliphate’!
I have seen some good things that have come from this organisation in the past… yet I absolutely condemn their demands to ban Critics of Islam from being allowed to come here and talk.
They have overstepped the mark…

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

Update: Call for judicial review of Auckland Council agency’s blocking of far-right speakers
Great News!
Free speech group raises $50k to challenge Auckland Council over far-Right speaker ban

The Objective Reality Of Hell. Subjective Whim vs Belief in Heinous Things: A Dialogue.

I have been wanting to do a Blogpost on Objective Truths vs Subjective whims for a long time, yet like so many super important topics… I have procrastinated out of fear of not doing these subjects justice.
Esp in relation to my Belief in the Objective reality of Hell… despite not liking the doctrine at all… and wishing it were not true.
I esp want to talk about how a keynote of a Subjective whimsical thinker is that they refuse to believe in anything they find repugnant… esp if admitting ‘their’ possibility will have implications for themselves that they do not want to deal with.
Fear and loathing.
They are like the Ostrich who seeks to hide from any scary reality by putting their heads in a hole in the ground.

There are *many unpleasant realities* and any rational Cosmology/ belief system must be strong enough to encompass these dark truths.
‘The Problem of Evil’ ‘Theodicy’ being one of the greatest of all Theological/ philosophical topics that challenges the faith of many in Divine Providence and goodness, and many think the Doctrine of hell is likewise a fatal proof against the Goodness of the Lord God of the Bible.

Read: Car Crash.

Tonight after work I came across the ‘Meme/post’ (At Top) by one Matthew Joseph on a Facebook Group I belong to called ‘Psychedelics and Philosophy’, and as you can see the question Matt put forward perfectly dovetails with these topics, and without saying too much in this introduction… I hope that intelligent readers will be able to follow my rationale as it flows in the dialogue… despite the fact that during the ‘debate’ comments get inserted in.

It is a raw ‘real world’ conversation… not a fabricated dialogue designed by a clever writer to display their philosophical eloquence… its a battle of words between two antagonists… a bible hater vs myself… a King Jame Bible believer.

I will however just make a few quick points before I post the dialogue.
1. From what I have already said above you can see what motive I had for entering on a discussion of the question posed by Matt. It was not as he says… that I was ‘assuming’ some sort of personal attack, but that my initial comment (which is important because I maintain it’s position throughout the whole dialogue and my later comments are all in context of it) was a sincere attempt to draw attention to ‘Why some people believe heinous things’.. and that it is far more dangerous to assume that all heinous things ought to be automatically and subjectively disbelieved.

2. I admit to making some bold assumptions from the get go… as to why Matt may have posted this question… assumptions founded upon years dialogue, study, etc… and from the reaction that swiftly followed my original comment It becomes clear that my assumptions were perfectly correct.
Matt *Is precisely the sort of person I suspected*… yet still it was not my original intention to get into a bun fight… though once the first bun was thrown at me… I was more than ready to retaliate in kind!

3. With these things in mind I hope by the time any reader traverses this dialogue that they will see that Matts final assertion my arguments are all ‘Non sequitur’ is simply another denial of the fact that I was on point the whole time…

My ongoing comments must be taken *In context* of his comments… He fails to appreciate how he himself fills in the sequence of my reasoning… justifies my progressive assumptions, and makes full vindication of my original comment.

Thus I assert it was Matt who started the petty nastiness… Matt immediately responded in a derogatory manner… debasing the conversation by calling me a ‘Jack ass’… hoping to shut me down… not because he could rebut me… but because he did not like my original moot defending belief in the Bible and hell.
I assert that Matt said almost nothing that equates to a rational argument, and that at all points he displayed the Subjectivity of a God hating sinner… a lost soul who does not want to contemplate the possibility of facing Divine judgement and hell, and in fact he has nothing of substance to offer on the topic of belief.
He only wants to believe things that are non-threatening… non-challenging to his modus opperandi… and esp dont lay moral weights upon his back.
Matt is a Hater of The God of the Bible… and thinks Christians are Freaks.

Atheists like to make their own rules.
Even though their world view is ultimately nihilistic… morally sterile and devoid of value they still like to think of themselves as ‘Good people’…and that they are the ‘defenders of truth’, etc.. so they claim to sit on the Lofty Ground and pour righteous indignation down upon the religious.
It’s all Absurd and inconsistent hypocrisy with their own professed beliefs… yet very necessary for their self delusion.

Read: How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? (part1) Atheist Nihilism.

Matt asserts that I went for his throat from the get go.
Yet still He has given me his permission to include his name and though one of his friends jumps in… he says little of substance and I have left his name in there too.
The whole dialogue is Screen shots… verbatim… Pettiness and all.

I assume only 3 mad people will read it in full… yet I intend to use this conversation in the future debates and discussions.

Now the debate is over, and I dont hold any ill feelings, and it is not my intention to use this blog post in malice against him, and in fact I offer an Olive branch to him and will post him the link to this blogpost and have already invited him to make critisisms and defend himself in the comments.
I hope that he will re-consider my arguments.

I dont want him to go to hell.
I dont want *anyone* to go to hell!
Yet I wont deny its objective reality because it was taught by Christ and is in the Divine Revelation… The King James Bible.

Read: The Rock of Divine Revelation.

One of my most heavy burdens is watching as my friends and family…one by one… enter eternity Rubbishing Christ and assuming Hell and Judgement are not awaiting them.
It breaks my heart when they make it clear that they do not even wish to discuss this topic with me.

That Hell is real is why Christ gave his life on the Cross!
And To prevent people going to hell is not achieved by denying it’s existence… but by preaching the gospel of Gods Grace!
Preaching The Cross.

Read: Christ’s work of Salvation on the Cross… The Great Equaliser.

Matt will not know that I was once an Militant Atheist myself… so I appreciate how *alien* the spiritual truths of the Bible appear to the Natural man… the Materialist.

Read: Death of an Atheist. Follow the evidence.

It has been argued by atheists that Jesus was immoral because he preached about hell, and that to their thinking eternal damnation in torment is too horrific an idea to be expounded by any Good person.
I admit it is a truly horrific proposition and I understand why even many Christians today try to do God a favour by denying the doctrine of hell… saying it is false teaching… bad interpretation, etc.
They want to removed hell because of the obstacle to faith it represents.. and they wish to escape the burden of arguing that God is moral to eternally Damn sinners … that is a hard thing to sell!
, yet I Choose to trust the Bible, and I argue that irrespective of my personal feelings… that *If hell is an objective reality* then I must Trust that God is Righteous in all his judgments, and that it would be immoral for Christ *not to preach about it*… not to warn sinners they were in danger… and it would be immoral for me to go along with the charade that hell does not exist!

Christians who are swayed against the doctrine of hell because of the difficulties it presents are infact involved in a form of Idol making.
They seek to make an Image of God more pleasing to their subjective desires and vain ideas rather than worshiping the God of the Bible… as he has revealed himself to truly be… including his holiness and abhorrence of sin and evil…
Look at all the vile evil in the world!
Look at the wickedness and perversion of humanity!
With one breath Atheist point at Wars and Tyranny… all the suffering of the weak at the hands of the strong, and accuse God of not caring about evil… yet with their next breath they condemn the Doctrine of Divine judgement!
They say The God of the Bible is outrageously Jealous and angry and that his judgments are too harsh!
Am I the only one who sees the contradiction and hypocrisy of the infidels?

Richard Dawkins pandered to the seething rage of millions of Atheists against God and his judgement, and instead of boldly standing on the scriptures and counter-striking with the Doctrine of the Love, Grace, and mercy of God… many Christians Retreated in the face of such an onslaught… just as they have shamefully done on so many issues vital issues like accepting ‘Evolution’… like accepting that Rationalist position on the Scriptures as merely a human construct full of Myths, and Superstitions.
And when they have removed Hell from their beliefs… they also have removed the greatest moral burden and impetus to preach the Gospel of Salvation to the lost!

God’s Judgement is evidence of the *Moral weight* and *Value* and Meaning he places upon Human life and action.
God takes our existence and activities very seriously!

God has managed to show his mighty wisdom and Both Judge and show mercy!
Remember that God himself is not willing that any should perish, and that he commended his love toward us in that while we were yet sinners , Christ died for us.
Those that end up in Damnation *choose their fate*… by rejecting Christ and the mercy of God.

So here it is…. “Let he that hath an ear to hear… let them hear”.
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

Update: After posting the link to this post to Matt and his friends, he responded with more vitriol and personal insults displaying he is completely incapable of being rational on this topic.
And his friends weighed in too and it is telling that in more that 70 comments that were made… at no point did any of them actually address the content of my argument… and focused on pouring out guile on me personally.
They even wheel in some guy they think is a Philosophical ‘Heavy weight’… yet he proceeds to act as ‘amateur hour’ as the rest!
‘Tim is a Maniac’
‘Tim’s post is too long’
‘Tims writing is shit’… etc etc.
These are the whole tenor of my detractors ‘arguments’ against me… quite pathetic… very telling about their personal spiritual condition.
Of course ‘indifferent’ dialogues of noble and pure thinkers are Myth.
Fantasies invented by philosophers… In the real world most contentious Dialogues are full of ugliness, and so this dialogue fits in well with ‘Keeping it real’.

Anyway here is the discussion … and I will have to add some more of the later comments… I do know it’s ‘quite long’ in today’s short ‘attention span’ culture, yet I think the subject is worth taking time to ponder.













Swearing Imperfect Christian.

Constructed from a Facebook discussion…

I confess… and it’s no secret…
I Swear.
It is something that I struggle with.
I dont think it’s ok.
Yet neither do I buy into what Self-righteous freaks suggest that some how… because I swear… that is evidence I’m not a true Christian.
Its called being imperfect.
And there are many people who are PC… dont swear yet have far more malevolence in their hearts… they just dress their hatred and bigotry in more socially acceptable garb … yet it can be even more vile and insidious in it’s intent… yet that is how self-righteous hypocrisy manifests itself.


^ Sadly…There is some truth in this

I admit my shameful short comings… I dont wear a fake cloak of righteousness.
And I do try and live a better life every day… yet it is hard to get swearing out of your system when it is ingrained in your vocabulary of self-expression… there is no ‘Magic’ way to stop… anyone who thinks the Holy Spirit magically stops people from swearing is full of ‘it’.
I try to keep it real… try to remain sincere… and not put on an act… a facade… I am me… and one of the things I loath about *Acting Christians* is their phonie-ness .
I have always struggled with my spiritual walk against the Flesh… I have to trust God’s grace is sufficient for me… the wretch.

“A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.”
Jesus Christ. Luke 6vs45

I am not a Pastor because I am unworthy… I do admire people who are both holy and sincere, and full of grace… not law… yet there is something very wrong with all the messages I hear about being ‘Holy and separate and not like the world’… To me they mostly preach a ‘Fake stereotype’ of what they think *Every Christian* should conform too… as if there is only one pattern… as if we ought to all be alike in every aspect… all like pastors… all absolutely and only committed to the gospel… or else we are being evil and ‘like the world’… yet I can see that this idea is *not what the Bible says*.
The Bible says we are all *different parts of the Body of Christ*… with different jobs to do… different gifts and talents.
Different struggles and missions.
And most of us are not called to be ministers and Pastors.
Our first duty is to take care of our families safety and necessities… and raise our children in faith.
This means we work in the real world… Buy houses… vote in elections…. are concerned about Terrorism… and we raise our children under the grace of God… not under the Law… and under grace we may still watch TV… still cheer for our favorite sports teams… buy a boat and go fishing… etc etc.. ie we enjoy our lives like ordinary people… and so its *not a sin* in many ways to look like ordinary people… because that is what we are… and so I get very annoyed with self righteous zealots who claim unless we appear as zealous as they do, that somehow we are fake Christians… ‘like the world’.
I say they are far more likely to be the fakes!
they have totally missed the boat about being a Christian.
I am a real Christian!
Not Perfect…
A Sinner saved by the grace of God… and trying to incorporate Christian virtues and values in my life… and preaching the gospel when opportunity presents it’self.

It cant be denied that swearing not only offends God, but also ruins/ severely detracts from a Christians testimony… and this brings me grief to know this.
It pains me that some lost souls will turn their ears from my testimony because I swear, and
If my testimony is worthless because I swear then virtually my whole life is worthless… yet I dont believe that.
God only has imperfect Servants with which to delegate his chores!
There are no perfectly holy Christians.
I dont believe the gospel would be better off if I hid my faith until I master my unruly tongue.
I still believe my testimony has value *despite my failings*…
I try to represent the truth that God’s grace is open to ordinary people… ordinary sinners… and that becoming a christian doest not demand a person become a faker… a card board cut out of what *the world thinks Christians are*.
Becoming a Christian does not a perfect person make… it is but the beginning of a new path *and process* of Moral Redemption as we transform from a Lost soul and the thoughts and habits thereof into a ‘born again’ new person patterned on Holiness.
Yet The Old man does not surrender easily!

The less the vile wickedness of the carnal tongue is no joke… no laughing matter…. It is something Alien to God’s Holiness, and is very much an attribute of Satan himself!

An ‘Anarchist Christian’ friend remarked “I think it’s okay to have a potty mouth, just don’t use names of God as expletives.”

I pointed out firstly that… ‘I think’… is not a good yardstick for morality… not objective… and secondly the concept of … ‘I think it’s okay to have a potty mouth’… gets its subjectivity because of Our ‘acclimatization’ to what we conciser ‘normal’… and the excuses and rationalisations we create to pseudo-justify what ‘We think…’ for convenience.

I take responsibility for my predicament with regards to swearing.
It is ingrained in me because of years of habit… of conforming to ‘the norms’ of my peers in the social strata I have lived in… in particular the ‘Bogan Westy culture’ that I embraced as a Teenager, and the ‘Engineering Guild ‘ to which I Joined and work among as an Engineer.
Swearing is endemic in both these Sub cultures.
It is the norm.
And it is acceptable among the *Hard core* who consider themselves to be *The real deal*… rather than the ‘PC Wowzers’ who will never be fully accepted into this ‘elite’.
And though at face value I can see how pompous and silly… and in fact *immoral* these ideas are, it still takes a monumental effort not to think in these terms… It is so deeply ingrained into our *Personal Identity and world view*.
Just questioning these ideas and trying to escape it is looked upon as almost a sign of betrayal!
The problem is that I have bought into this stuff to such a degree that *It feels true to me*… even though when I step back… i know its an evil delusion.

Thus I battle within myself.
I admit my own stubbornly ingrained false values that are in conflict with what I know to be Right and good.

This is the spiritual battle between the Old man… the flesh… and the New Man Born of Faith in Christ.

James 3:1-12 (NKJV) 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. 8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God.

On the upside I am not the sort of Christian who gets offended by swearing, and even should I eventually win the victory over my own cussing … By God’s Grace I hope never to be a person who takes offence… or hold anyone in contempt for being a swearer.
I will have grace upon them, and will continue to preach Gods grace… may I never become one of those self-righteous and judgmental freaks who cause Christianity to stink because of their over-zealously turns them into contempt filled Pharisees.
I believe this is actually a positive virtue that aids me in what I believe is my God given calling and mission field… which is to share my testimony with Publicans, and Sinners… Bogans and Westies… in other words…. among my own people.
I pray my personal walk improves and my testimony becomes more valuable to God.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Protestant, Dispensationalist, King James Bible believer, Christian Libertarian.

P.S I do need to clarify one more thing… and that is that in a very real sense God has given us a pattern and example to follow and emulate… and that Pattern for the Christian is The Apostle Paul… yet this does not mean we are to *Exactly* emulate him like perfect xerox copies… We ought to emulate his Ideals and values, and follow his doctrines yet this does not mean we will all appear like clones… We should not all become tent makers…. we are not ourselves Apostles!
We are to incorporate Paul’s teachings into our own lives and circumstances… and apply them as we follow what we believe is Gods will and intention for our lives… as individuals… seeking out Gods special purpose for our lives.

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Thorns in the Flesh.

Hell is for the Self Righteous, Heaven is for Sinners.

Death of an Atheist. Follow the evidence.

The Gospel of God’s Grace.

Bad Apples. Heretics and Infidels.

The Irony. Why I follow St Paul… Not Jesus.

The Christian Fellowship is a voluntary private society, not a theocratic political movement.

and this one from Richard Goode….

Salt is a four-letter word

John Key 2010 “We are Winning the P Battle! …. BULLSHIT!

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How high can you stack Bullshit?
If You are a Populist Politician belonging to any of the mainstream parties you can stack it Flocking High!!!
In 2010 John Key boasted that The governments Heavy handed Tactics on P ‘were winning’… anyone familiar with Prohibition ought to have immediately smelled something very poo-ey…. World Leaders have been coming to realise that Prohibition *Never works!*… yet it suceeds in making society less safe…

Read: Police know the War on Drugs is making New Zealand a more dangerous place, yet try to pull the wool over the Public’s eyes.

The Police are executing people without trial… yet the problem keep getting worse….
When it comes to dealing with societies Pet Phobias… The more heavy handed the better.
Like the witch craze…. The Mass hysteria surrounding P (Meth) is a Licence to Kill.

Read : A life cut short by Police

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Read: The New Jews… Meth Users.

The best indicator to their Failure is despite More funding… More Arrests, and Executions… and Extreme Punishments being meted out… Demand has not fallen, and the price of P is now almost half what it was in 2010!

In October last year, then-Prime Minister John Key acknowledged meth had become “the drug of choice” for some Kiwis.

Police needed to do more to stop it entering the country through remote areas like Northland, he said.

Key said at the time that a $15 million boost for anti-drug initiatives was not an admission the Government was losing the war against P.

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John Key puts on his ‘Cant remember’ face.

^^^ What an evil lying Pig-headed Prick!
The Man is Deranged!

Anyone with any brains can see that The War on P is lost…
Anyone with Brains can see that Ongoing Cannabis Prohibition is also exacerbating the use of Meth… and that the best policy for making our country safer would be to legalise Cannabis… as has been happening in America!
And when it is proven that More Freedom… less tyranny actually works… more people will wake up to the truth that the War on drugs needs to be completely surrendered… yet of course,, the vested interests of Prohibition… the populist politicians…The Police… and The Drug Gangs… And the Growth indistry that has sprung up testing workers for Drugs… testing houses for contamination… repairing houses that have been blacklisted…. these vested interests and the Millions of Dopey dipshits who think they have the right to tell other people what they do with their own Bodies, time, and money… all these freaks will do everything they can to keep the war going…. Despite all the evidence that they are making things worse.
The word ‘insanity’ does not do justice to this Madness.
‘Hellbent’ ‘Psychopathic’ ‘Fanaticism’ ‘Malevolent-hatred’…. these are terms more suited to describe all the parties involved in perpetuating this Heinous War.

Satan Laughing spreads his wings.

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.

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‘Meth now easier to get than cannabis in Northland, locals say’….
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January 19 2017

Methamphetamine has become easier to source in Northland than marijuana, according to locals.

Whangarei defence lawyer Kelly Ellis said according to her clients, P was soaring in availability over cannabis, which had long been considered the country’s preferred illegal drug.

“It makes sense, let’s get real about it,” she said.

“Meth is much more lucrative and much easier to do than having to carry smelly bags of cannabis around the place.”

Ellis deals with people at “the pointy end” of the drug trade, including meth users, dealers and manufacturers.

She said gang presence in the north had increased rapidly over the past five years, and what were once tinnie houses had converted to dealing the much harder drug.

The seizure of half a tonne of P from 90 Mile Beach in June was an indication of the size of New Zealand’s meth problem, she said.

“If you look at that as being a basic economic indicator of availability versus demand, it seems demand is not outstripping supply.”

Chris Fowlie, president of the New Zealand reform marijuana advocacy group NORML, said he too had heard meth was easier to come by than cannabis in Northland.

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​”People can’t find cannabis but they know where to get meth from a tinnie house,” he said.

“Gangs really do run the show because of fear of people growing their own.”

Detective Inspector Kevin Burke said the take-down of 12 local labs last year, on top of the June bust, was another indication of the “significant problem” meth had become.

“It illustrates, in addition to the importation of methamphetamine, there’s still a demand clearly for homegrown methamphetamine,” he said.

“At the end of the day it’s profit-driven and people are prepared to run the risk.”

In October, then-Prime Minister John Key acknowledged meth had become “the drug of choice” for some Kiwis.

Police needed to do more to stop it entering the country through remote areas like Northland, he said.

Key said at the time that a $15 million boost for anti-drug initiatives was not an admission the Government was losing the war against P.

– Stuff

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Read more… P easier to get than weed on the West Coast.

“Westport is being dubbed “Methport” as P takes a hold in the West Coast town.

The annual cannabis haul in the West Coast bush has been trending down over the past decade but P offences have sky-rocketed. Joanne Carroll takes a look at what is happening.

The West Coast has always had a reputation for being the cannabis capital of New Zealand with its isolated communities surrounded by beautiful wild bush in a climate that some say creates ideal growing conditions.

But that reputation is changing as P takes a devastating grip….”

And More still … Video: Welcome to Gisborne, where it’s easier to get P than cannabis

They claim it’s easier to buy a bag of P than it is to get a cannabis tinny, and that addiction is having a flow-on effect in the community.
“Depending on who you know it’s between $550 and $1000 a gram, and in Gisborne we have kids going to school with no lunch,” says former user Tricia Walsh, who was jailed for three years on drug offences.”

The cost to fix P-contaminated houses

Forbes: Everything You’ve Heard About Crack And Meth Is Wrong

More Prohibitionist Lies exposed: ‘Crack baby’ study ends with unexpected but clear result. By Susan FitzGerald, For The Inquirer.
Hell’s Bells! Drugs and Alcohol are being consumed in an Adult manner by the employed masses!

The Child Casualties of the Jihad on Drugs.

Prohibition is a Bad trip!

Let’s talk rationally about Synthetic Cannabis and how society ought to manage it.

Prohibition fails again. Synthetic Cannabis still here… driven underground. TVNZ

NZ Research finds Synthetic Cannabis Low Risk. The Star Trust.
Dunne fails Drugs Test. Colin Espiner. Sunday Star Times. May 4 2014

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“The deeper I delve into the issue, however, the more I am struck by just how frightening the consequences of prohibition are.”
Lizzie Marvelly

Lizzie Marvelly: Prohibition – it should be banned NZ Herald

The war on drugs has failed. Now what?

“The bad news is that there are still some governments that believe drug prohibition is possible. They still insist on continuing a flawed war launched by former President Nixon in the early 1970s. They cling to outdated ideas. They rely more on ideology than evidence. Some of them are simply ignorant to the harms generated by irrational drug policy.

Here are three ways that the war on drugs has fallen short.

First, the war on drugs has utterly failed to reduce the supply of illicit drugs on international markets. Fumigation, eradication, and crop substitution programmes have had almost no effect on aggregate production of cocaine, heroin, or marijuana. In spite of massive investments by the U.S. and others in Bolivia, Colombia and Peru – the countries responsible for almost 100% of cocaine production – coca cultivation is in fact stable over the past decade. If anything, they’ve only succeeded in making life more miserable for poor communities and farmers.

Second, counter-narcotics policies have also been unable to contain transit of drugs from Latin America to North American and European markets. About 90% of the cocaine consumed in the United States comes from Colombia, while 90% of the cocaine used by Europeans is from Peru. Virtually all of this product is transferred through countries in Central America, the Caribbean and South America. Not only has it persisted unabated, but its transfer has also greatly expanded corruption of politicians, customs officials, police and has spread violence and increased consumption throughout these regions….”

‘Thailand is moving closer to decriminalizing meth’

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A police officer from the Narcotics Control Board guards bags of methamphetamine pills during a drug destruction ceremony north of Bangkok, Thailand, June 26, 2015. Credit: Athit Perawongmetha/Reuters

“The war on drugs is futile. So why not just decriminalize meth?”

It’s not a sentiment you’d expect from senior officials in any authoritarian country — let alone from a strait-laced army general, draped in medals, who came to power in a coup.

But Thailand’s top law enforcement officer is now pursuing this radical notion with vigor.

He’s talking openly about a potential new diktat, issued by military rulers, that would allow citizens to smoke meth without fearing prison.

“The world has lost the war on drugs,” said Thailand’s Justice Minister Paiboon Khumchaya, according to Reuters. “Not only Thailand.”

These are startling statements in a country that, as it stands, still executes drug traffickers.

The Thai government’s drug policy is quite harsh. After all, in recent decades, the nation’s police have largely mimicked the zealous drug war mindset propagated by the United States.

Yet now, seemingly out of nowhere, this typically rigid junta is spouting soft views on narcotics — namely meth — that fall somewhere to the left of many Colorado stoners.

“This is unprecedented,” says Pascal Tanguay, a Bangkok-based associate with the International Drug Policy Consortium. “They’ve actually been talking about different models from decriminalization to full-fledged legalization.”
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