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Stop with the lies and Blame! Maori need to take responsibility for their own shocking Crime statistics.

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Socialism is built upon a mountain of lies that must be maintained at all cost lest the light of truth should penetrate the fog and expose the rot and the deception.
Lies are told by those who seek advantage that they would never receive should the truth be admitted, and any such advantages gained by such dishonesty are always at the expense of others.
Yet Lies also bring curses upon those who make deals with the Devil, and though it may appear for a season to be profitable… ultimately Frauds have a habit of bringing pain and destruction… hence the old adage ‘Cheats never prosper’.

One of the most toxic Political Deceptions that is rigorously maintained by Socialists in New Zealand and continuously served up to the New Zealand public is the ‘Defeatist Entrapment’ of the Maori people as being the eternal victims of White Rapine, and Oppression.
The Great Evil of ‘Colonisation’.

This Blatant lie is not only used to claim that because Maori are said to be the victims of Racism, that they are owed Welfare….’restorative justice’… compensation…. etc… ie Justify all the socialist welfare programs, special Legislation, and treaty settlements, etc but also to absolve Maori from taking any responsibility for their own shocking Social metrics.

Socialists claim:
Its the white mans Fault Maori Men Drink and Beat their woman and children.
Its the white mans Fault Maori Woman are Obese.
Its the white mans fault Maori youth are unemployed and belong to Gangs.
Its the White man’s Fault that Maori Commit violent crimes and fill our jails to overflowing!

This is precisely the sort of vile Political ideology that has just been served up under a report ‘He Waka Roimata or A Vessel of Tears’ that pretends to be ‘an inquiry’ when in reality its just a Partisan Ideological media release designed to dupe the public into accepting Left wing political agenda and program.

Ref: Stuff ‘A Vessel of Tears’: Grief and colonialism at the heart of criminal justice experience, report says

They claim this is *systemic oppression*.

“The report was produced by the Government-appointed Te Uepū pai i te Ora – Safe and Effective Justice Advisory Group after more than 220 public meetings nationwide.”

Wow! Sounds like this ‘report’ is based upon a substantial investigation! yet when the resulting conclusions and recommended actions were already known *before the inquiry*… that is not an inquiry!
This whole process was nothing more than a huge Junket at the tax payers expense!
That’s 220 taxpayer funded meetings across the Nation where Socialist ideologues got paid to sit around and have Lunch, and talk *about their own opinions*… peddle their own wares… Paddle their own waka!

(Photos taken from an ‘Action Station’ PDF dated aprox 3-10-18)

The above ‘Action Station’ ‘research report’ encapsulates the ideology that underpins ”He Waka Roimata or A Vessel of Tears’.
The date of this ‘research report’ dovetails perfectly with the ‘Vessel of tears’ program, and you get a feel for the way this whole process was undertaken… and see that it was far from impartial and objective … ” We Honour your Korero, We honour your whanau, and we stand in solidarity with you..”

We can be certain that at no point did the truth about why there are so many Maori in Jail get aired…. Ie That Maori are failing to take responsibility for their own behavior… their own lack of personal ethics… their own sloth, and lack of civil values… ie that the lies of Socialism are failing them… no…. no such Truth Bombs made it into this Left wing propaganda piece… Truth Bombs that would blow the entire left wing Political system out of the water and free Maori from the Delusions that all their misery is the white mans fault!

Even the name of the report ‘Vessel of Tears’…. is nauseating! (like Ardern’s ‘Well being Budget’)… who the hell dreams up these pompous propaganda names … how ‘basic’ do these Charlatans think the average New Zealander is?
They seriously believe such weasel words make the lies they are selling more palatable to the masses?
I shudder to contemplate they may be right!

As a the son of a failed marriage between my Violent and Alcoholic Maori Father and a Pakeha Mother who was the victim of his abuse, My Childhood was a combination of Living with my Pakeha Grandparents, Times lived with my Solo Mum on the DPB, and times lived with a violent Stepfather when my mother re-married, My childhood was less than Ideal, and I would leave home by the age of 15… more on my story here… and I came very close to becoming another Maori Social statistic that could have easily been written off as ‘just another victim of Colonization’ yet thankfully my Journey through the School of hard knocks taught me some priceless life lessons… that I could not blame my ruff childhood for my lot in life, but in fact that I myself, and the choices I made were (and are) chiefly responsible for how my life pans out… and it is this realisation… that I am *not a victim* of anything other than my own foolish ideas and values… that in reality… and irrespective of my dysfunctional upbringing… I am responsible for how successful my life will be … this Truth is *self empowering*… and I became a Libertarian… and an outspoken Critic of Socialism and all the Toxic Racism, defeatism, and entrapment in perpetual victim-ism it entails.
I have spent nearly two decades speaking out against the Lies of the racist radicals and their fraudulent claims of the Colonial oppression of Maori, and the evils of Maori dependence upon Socialist Welfare.

Waitangi Treaty Separatism, and all the socialist lies that it is Built upon is *Bare-faced Racist Politics* *Vile Fraudulent Revisionist History*… Yet to deny these Truth Bombs Socialists Like Justice Minister Andrew Little has the audacity to claim that Political pamphlets that speak out against his party’s Racist agenda and call for Equality before the law “as being Hate speech”… here… Anti-Māori pamphlet shows gaps in hate speech law: Andrew Little calls for action

Little repairing to the pseudo history of left wing accademics that infest of education system when he said… “It peddles myths about pre-European Maori society that historical scholarship does not bear out. If it demonstrates anything, it is that the author of it is an ignorant fool.”

So that is how Rigged this game is!
Socialists have positioned themselves at every station…
The Government.
The education system.
The Media
Fighting the socialist racist politics of the Leftist Government, and calling for Equality before the law is fed to the New Zealand Public by our Left wing infested Media *as being racist*, and as such the government wants to make such Political opinion *illegal* to speak about in public.

Yes Socialism seeks to use Political power and the law silence it’s critics!
Socialism uses political power and the law to re-write history!

And they want New Zealanders to think of those who call them out on their racism as being ‘Alt Right’ ‘White supremacists’ ‘ etc’.
So of course Socialists *cant stand Maori like myself* who deny We are victims of Colonisation… and who call for an end to treaty separatism and Apartheid politics!
An example of this hatred socialists have for people like myself can be seen in how triggered US democrats get when Black Woman Candice Owens destroys their claims of ‘White privilege’.
They likewise cant stand Gay man Milo yiannopoulis because he refuses to join the Socialist ranks of Homosexuals raging against Christianity. (think Israel Falou)
Likewise any woman who rejects militant left wing feminism and their blatant Man-hating sexism under the guise of ‘fighting the Patriarchy’.
In all these spheres it is not Equality before the Law that is the ideal of left wing ‘Identity politics’… but legalised Discrimination against whites… against holding Christian ideals and values… against Men, etc.

Again who is it that the Socialists in government, in the media, the Liberals running internet Social networks want to de-platform… want to silence?
Who is it the accuse of being ‘Hate speakers’ and try to associate with the ‘Alt right’… or accuse of ‘fake news’?

Those outspoken individuals whose Truth Bombs decimate left wing delusions, and expose their corruption and lies!

These are the speakers and activists Left wing Politicians like Auckland mayor Phil Goff try to prevent from getting Visas, or having venues to share their ideas to the voting public.
its left wing politicians like Goff who want to keep the public ignorant… and voting left!

Getting back to my original topic about the Lies that underpin the Racist Socialist agenda and their ideological excuse that Rampant Maori Criminality may be blamed on ‘Colonisation’, let me remind people of what New Zealand first MP and Minister of Regional Economic Development Shane Jones recently said….

Check this out…. ‘Shane Jones rubbishes claim colonialism is to blame for family violence’

Shane Jones, fresh off rescuing a woman from an alleged brutal domestic assault, has called on Māori to stop blaming colonialism for their woes.

Jones and his wife Dot were driving in Wellington on Saturday when they noticed a “fracas” in the car behind them….

The attacker, Jones said, was a young Māori man.

“I say to our Maori people – this sort of carry-on, don’t go blaming colonialism; don’t join the chorus of idiocy I’m seeing on the East Coast where the artists don’t want Captain Cook celebrated because they’re responsible for family violence on the East Coast. That’s pathetic. I hate that soup of excuses.”

Author of ‘Once were Warriors’ Allan Duff also copped a lot of hate from Maori for challenging their Culture of Blame and perpetual victimism.
The Movie was an indictment against the attitudes… and ‘culture of violence’ prevalent within Maoridom and it exposed the sort of mentality that causes Maori people to end up in prison… Nothing to do with ‘white men’s oppression’ and everything to do with the lack of Values.
In The sequel ‘What becomes of the broken Hearted’ Jake the Muss meets some Maori Guys who were using their time and talents much more constructively, and Jake tries to re-invent himself… to become a better man… and that folks… is the road to redemption!
Once were Warriors cut very close to the bone for many Maori because of how it reflected their reality.
Like my own Father… White people were not to blame for his own lack of self control… for the bullshit running around in his head… for his violence and his drinking!
He was fully responsible for that!

Read: Alan Duff: Time to break silence on Maori violence

It is the height of dishonesty for Socialist politicians to try and deny these most basic Moral truths!

The Real ‘Vessel of Tears’ is the fact that ongoing blame of Colonisation will never rescue Maori from the mire!

That will never come via Socialst lies and delusions.

It will only come the Day the Maori People shrug off the lies of socialist victimism, and racist blame, and determine to escape Socialist welfare dependency by taking ownership for their criminality and thereby determining to *Morally change* and to embrace *Values* that embody the virtues of Hard work, forsaking vice, forsaking violence, forsaking crime, forsaking Race hatred against Pakeha, forsaking the toxic lies sewn by socialists for political gain … that they are the victims of their Pakeha neighbours greed.
Throwing Off all that Dead weight and facing the future as an opportunity to prosper … by their own efforts… In Freedom…. under equality.
None of this entails an abandonment or lessening of their own Culture or identity.
This is pure empowerment… the very opposite of socialist victimism and dependence.

And New Zealanders must fight against Left wing attempts to outlaw Political criticism and alternative opinions!
Free Speech, and Freedom to assemble and hear Critics of the Government is essential for a democracy to remain Free.
Websites, Social media platforms, etc must remain accessible to all so that the people are truly informed at elections rather than just spoon fed left wing lies.

As Jesus Christ said “And ye shall know the truth, and the Truth shall make you free”.

BOOM!

One Law change that could significantly Help Maori would be to End cannabis prohibition!
Its a Bad/ unjust law, and while it has zero to do with racism, Maori are disproportionately affected by it.
So vote to end Prohibition in the coming referendum.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

PS… Neither has it only been the Labour Party that has practiced this apartheid politics… For Decades The National Party has also facilitated it, and gotten into bed with Racist radicals of the Maori Party, etc… New Zelanders need to find a Political party dedicated to ending Treaty separatism and abolishing the Maori Seats in parliament… as a non-negotiable bottom line (never trust Winston Peters! Sadly for all his claims to want to end the ‘Brown mail’…the man speaks with forked tongue)

Join Hobson’s pledge here

More from Tim

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TIM WIKIRIWHI’S SUBMISSION TO THE NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT’S CONSTITUTIONAL REVIEW. 2013

LOOKING FORWARD, NOT BACKWARDS: DYNAMIC CULTURE VS STAGNATION. WHY BRITISH COLONISATION WAS GOOD FOR MAORI.

THE GREAT WAITANGI DEBATE. 2010

WHERE HATERS COME FROM.

Universal Pride in Washington, Separatist Shame in Wellington.

The Shame of Maori Radicalism. Hate and Violence.

Why a new Constitution for New Zealand must protect the Individual from Mobocracy.

Paul Holmes on Waitangi day Stench.

State of Confusion. The Rule of Law vs The Mandate of the Majority. New Zealand’s Constitutional Crisis.

Low Lives in High Places. Water and John Key’s Racist Alliance

The Great Waitangi Swindle.

Trojan Horse: The UN Separatist Declaration of Indigenous Rights.

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Canada’s Amazing Polly: Censoring Opposition to Censorship. (Must watch!)

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Amazing Polly.

I have posted the two ‘Amazing Polly’ videos that I have watched and she is as sharp as a knife!
We can be sure that at some point in the future she will be targeted for de-platforming and internet ghosting so I have included some of the alternative sites where she has set up in preparation for this inevitable censorship she will face.
Polly’s video ‘Censoring Opposition to Censorship’ is under attack by SJWs… eg… here.
And the Alt-Left are psychopathic… they are Trolling the Internet trying to get any critics of their ideology and Political agenda Banned/ De-platformed, etc.

On that note I will also add the fact that I have set myself up on MeWe here in anticipation of the high probability that I will probably loose my page on facebook, due to Political prejudices and Censorship, and that this Blog may also get blacklisted.

Published on 6 Jun 2019
Globalist politicians are ERASING testimony and holding semi-secret hearings. They are holding sham hearings where they don’t let people speak and the erase testimony that contradicts their objectives.
This is a dystopia. MORE…

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Amazing Polly on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/99Fr…

Twitter: https://twitter.com/99freemind

One very important point to appreciate in the video above that I want to discuss here is how in a Canadian Free Speech hearing, was how a hand picked Muslim ‘hate speech law proponent’ was allowed to present his very dishonest opinions about Alexandre Bissonnette who shot six members of a Quebec City mosque in 2017, and The Christchurch Anti-Muslim terrorist Brenton Tarrant saying these killers were ‘Pro-Conservative’.
This slant was correctly rebutted by Canadian Conservative party MP Michael Cooper who labeled this testimony Slanderous and defamatory … lacking in credibility… and then went on to prove that Tarrant was opposed conservatism by quoting from Tarrants own Manifesto (that is conveniently banned in New Zealand under threats of Jail) in which Tarrent expressly states that he rejects conservatism and that the closest Political system to which he subscribes is *Communist China!*
This clearly marks Tarrant *as a LEFTIST*
And the very fact that there is a murderously dangerous anti-muslim Alt-Left is a fact that the left are desperate to keep from the Public mind.
The left seeks to deceive the public into thinking that only the so-called ‘Alt right’ are ‘islamiphobic’ and so by default any so-called ‘anti-Muslim activities’ *can all be blamed on Alt right extremism*… this is why they lump conservatives with Nazis.
Yet the truth is The Leftist Atheist Communist China is Ruthlessly oppressing Muslims in China… It may indeed be the most anti-muslim government on Earth!
Yet we dont hear so much of a peep out of Our Lefty Government who will Bag the US and Trump all day long, yet who are terrified stupid of offending Beijing and also do not wish to advertise the fact the Left wing has its share of vicious Islamiphobia of the sort Lauded by The Christchurch Terrorist.
Lets not forget that in 2008 Ardern was elected President of the International Union of Socialist Youth.
Leftists and the UN are also notorious Anti-Israel Anti-Semites.

What is also absolutely abhorrent about this Canadian Hearing is how MP Michael Coopers testimony and use of Tarrants manifesto was met with outrage and has been sort to be deleted from Public record!
*Censoring the truth… Doctoring the Public record… and in effect Re-writing history to suit their own desires!*

This stuff is why Free speech Advocates are saying we are now living in the Orwellian Universe of 1984.
And we New Zealanders can be sure this same suppression of the facts cover up, will define the trial of Brenton Tarrant, and that what we the public will get to see and hear will only be a narrative constructed to present Events the way the Government wants you to swallow as fact.
It will be propaganda… not the truth.

The Idea that banning Tarrant’s manifesto ‘The Great Replacement’ is somehow to prevent ‘copy cat’ crimes is totally bogus!
The real reason is because the Government wants to control *all information*… your thoughts… and as we have seen for this video the manifesto contains this terrorists political views that are very inconvenient and contradictory of the governments Narrative.

We are in the middle of an Information war… The battlefield is domination of the Public mind.

We live in such frightening times that just by talking about these matters and individuals, Thinkers and writers like myself could find ourselves being targeted and intimidated by the Police who will look for any pretext by which they can arrest us, prosecute us, put legal Gags on us, and shut down our Blogs and social media presence.

Just by daring to express our personal opinions and critisise what the government is doing we will be flagged as ‘Dangerous’… ‘Alt Right’… etc with all the Ugly connotations tat those terms carry… Racists… Islamiphobes… etc… and when the Authorities think of a person in such terms it is very easy to abuse them, violate their rights … without conscience… indeed to joke about it… and take pride in it… and thats precisely how the persecution of the Jews was carried on in Nazi Germany.
The German police thought of the Jews as Dangerous traitors and Subversives to the National weal… vermin who *deserved* to be oppressed by the State.

So who really are the haters???
In my view the Spirit of Official persecution is Satanic… and we see this oppressive anti- Freedom Spirit is now running rampant all across western civilisation.
What sort of world are we bequeathing to our children?
I will not remain silent and Complicit!
I will raise my voice in protest for their sake!

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.
New Zealand.

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Its time for the Freedom movement to liberate themselves from facebook… Get the party started over on Me We!

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Without any warning… I woke up the other day to find I had been locked out of my Facebook social media page for 30 days… I was told that my sentence was this long ‘because you continue to post things that violate Facebook community standards’.
My Heinous crime this time?
Posting a Picture of Adolf Hitler smiling!
It was a harmless joke!
The context was not malicious whatsoever… I was not glorifying Hitler… was not engaging in antisemitism or anything… yet this Ban is a demonstration of the Lefty PC Tyranny that prevails at facebook and that There is no Free Speech there… no room for Adult dialogue… or humour, and so if anything this Ban should tell the Freedom lover that it is time to find a new Social media home.

The inconvenience of being shut out of one of my main means of communication with my people, and the fact that there was no warning, rhyme, or valid reason for what they did has not stimulated me into being a more woke individual… the very opposite … hence the Classy Baboons Arse photoshop of the Zucc… made by my 8 year old son! 🙂

Behold my Crime! (Below)

That this should have happened to me is no surprise… its happened to me before several times over the most petty reasons, and this type of lefty SJW ‘offence taking’ Prejudice, Bans and deplatforming has become so general and commonplace of Facebook that sadly it has become normal and worse… it has become *accepted*… even by many people who are supposed to be ruggard free thinkers.
I had however anticipated that I would get Zucced sometime in the near future and so like several of my Facebook friends and groups, I have set myself up an alternative Social media presence at MeWe.

You can find me Here.

Having a ban from Facebook for a month will have some beneficial consequences in that I have begun to aclimatise myself to the Mewe format, and have searched and found… much to my joy… several Libertarian personalities whose activism and insights I enjoy and admire… yet of course there is currently only a fraction of Libertarians and groups there compared to facebook… and that is the Power facebook holds… even over people who despise the the political bias and censorship that tyrannizes over all.
So many people submit to it because their families and friends are there… maybe they have a business presence there… and their favorite groups are there too.
Whatmore most of us have developed an unhealthy facebook addiction having assimilated facebook into our lives and routine… all these factors make the thought of migrating elsewhere to a platform that currently is comparatively lacking in content…. like a crack addict contemplating going cold turkey!

Yet This Blog post is an appeal to you facebook addicts who love freedom and who wish to remain in contact with some of the Best Freethinkers to at least create yourself a Mewe account and try to at least visit your meWe page daily… and to regularly encourage your Family, friends, and groups, to do the same.
It is this way that Mewe will start to become far more fun and a genuine alternative to the Gargantuan Facebook Beast.

I am of two minds as to what other actions I should take… Its my opinion that facebooks Left wing prejudices renders it dangerous to Freedom in society, and that is unworthy of our custom, and on that principle alone It makes sense to *Punish facebook* by withdrawing ourselves… and the more people who do so the better, yet again why should any Libertarian ‘Permanently ban themselves’ from such a powerful Social media site… esp when despite their heinous prejudices …there are still so many befits to be gained there?
The Libertarian rebel in me says… no!… I will not leave… that is to surrender to what the Lefty SJWs desires!
Better to start focusing on developing a Mewe community, yet also continue activism on facebook… regularly using facebook to promote Mewe…. regularly using facebook to critisise Facebook…. and of course using facebook to rebut Left wing (and right wing) delusions, articles, and activities.

Its via pro-active foresight that Liberty lovers stay empowered rather than slowly being crushed into submission out of fear of being deplatformed… Zucced.

And facebook users should be looking out for your friends… if they ‘disappear’ … stop responding to your comments, and posts, etc there is a high probability they have been Zucced, and so they cant post, cant reply to you messages, etc and so unless you have set yourself up an alternative Social media presence (like on Mewe) or they have set up a second Facebook account under a pseudonym that you know about… it is as easy as pie for facebook to sever your communications with your closest social media friends, Family, etc.

Anyway I wont be back on facebook for 3 more weeks, though at no stage was i aware that posting a joke pic of Adolf Hitler would get me in trouble with the facebook Gestapo!
How Ironic it is that facebook has become so Hitlerian!

One day I am sure I will get my entire facebook presence deplatformed and probably my blog will also get banned too so I am appealing to my Family and friends to set themselves up a mewe account so we can stay in contact should these things eventuate…. It could happen sooner than anyone would imagine.

Tim Wikirihi.
Christian Libertarian.

P.S Zuckerburger is a Big Baboons Butt!
😀

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PHIL ARPS: A PORTRAIT OF A REAL ALT RIGHT NATIONALIST WHITE SUPREMACIST: COMBATING MALICIOUS LEFT WING PROPAGANDA.

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Facebook is waging a War on Information.

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Facebook is engaged in a War on Information… an Info war…. and your timid silence is complicity.
Speak up People!
Do you realise what is at stake?
Get used to having a Barcode stamped on your Foreheads Slaves! These Corporations are intent on controlling the Democratic process and Elections across Western civilisation.
To get their Tyrants into power so they can enslave you and your children.

That this business is very very dangerous for Western democracy has been noticed by Arch Villain of SJW Woke Liberalism the American President Donald Trump, who has spoken out about the banning of Conservative voices by facebook and Instagram via Twitter, threatening ‘Regulation’ to protect against Discrimination (a thorny issue) yet when you do a google search on Trumps comments You get a raft of articles like ‘Trump helps Bigots go viral’…. ‘Trump Spent his morning Retweeting Alt right Extremists and Shared a Video from InfoWars’

Here is a Quote from New Zealand ‘Newhub’…

“In an apparent response to Facebook’s banning of far-right agitators, US President Donald Trump has vowed online to closely monitor the situation and labelled it a form of censorship.

Trump’s tweets on the subject came a day after Facebook permanently banned Infowars and its founder Alex Jones, Infowars editor Paul Joseph Watson, white nationalist Paul Nehlen and far-right provocateurs Milo Yiannopoulos and Laura Loomer, as well as Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.”

Read ‘Trump lashes out at social media ‘censorship’‘

None of these people are Alt right!
Even if you disagree with what they say, these people all spoke freely, and most of them were against this PC Liberal Tyranny… yet now they have been silenced.
More and more are getting picked off every day… and soon there will be no more dissenting voices left here.

You will no longer receive updates telling you about the Police ‘Visits’ going on to New Zealanders who have done nothing more than express their own personal opinions on their own social media pages.

Sportspeople will no longer openly ‘Praise Jesus’… The Children will grow up in a world similar to North Korea… and become Fodder for the Beast.

Satan Laughing Spreads his wings.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

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Welcome to the Machine! I guess it wont be long before I am put in jail for breaking New Zealand ‘Hate speech’ legislation.

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Update:From Facebook, Andrew HS: 15-4-19.

“Hate Speech Laws and Blasphemous Libel: A Tale of Hypocrisy.

A few months ago, the Honourable Andrew Little quite rightly proposed a bill that eventually removed the last blasphemy law (s 123 of the Crimes Act 1961) from our statute books.

Before its removal, the effect of s 123 was to make it an offence to vilify or degrade Christianity with an intent to cause serious offence or by abusing sacred objects or beliefs (Bowman v Secular Society Ltd).

Section 123(3) went on to specify: “It is not an offence against this section to express in good faith and in decent language, or to attempt to establish by arguments used in good faith and conveyed in decent language, any opinion whatever on any religious subject”.

Thus the cumulative effect of s 123 was to make it an offence to vilify or degrade Christianity either in bad faith, or using indecent language.

At any rate, the repeal of s 123 was premised on concerns about the right to free expression. The necessary implication being that speech is *protected* notwithstanding that it is expressed in bad faith or indecent language, and vilifies Christianity.

If free speech grounds a right to vilify Christianity in bad faith or using indecent language, there is similarly a right to vilify any other religion in bad faith or using indecent language.

And yet I’m told that the latter would be legally actionable hate speech…”

The pace with which the current Ardern government is moving towards a police state, and the destruction of freedom is truly frightening!
And there seems to be nobody in parliament standing up in opposition to any of it!
The National Party have been hypnotized by the Ardern Cult of Personality… they pander to her every whim!
How the hell they ever expect this sort of Kowtowing to the Liberal agenda will help them get elected into power again is a mystery.

The Lefty infested New Zealand Press are hard at work lobbying for New Hate speech legislation and has acted like a Lynch mob towards Austrailian sports star Israel Folou quoting the Bible on his own social media page. and the condemnation he has received from our New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern herself, with the press goading her… begging her … to label what he said hate speech…here ‘Jacinda Ardern fires back at Israel Folau and social media comments’… while she was restrained by current legal definitions to label what he said as being a crime, she said she called it ‘Damaging’, yet we also know that her government is determined to push through New ‘hate speech’ legislation… with the same callous disregard for the rights of New Zealanders and due process they displayed with the latest Firearms prohibitions, and when you see what her minion Andrew Little thinks constitutes ‘hate speech’ if New Zealanders are not alarmed, and rise up against this abuse of power they truly deserve the expression of being a bunch of Sheep!
Unless new Zealanders wake up and stand against this sort of agenda driven anti-religious liberty… anti Free speech propaganda… Our country is doomed, and our children will not be taught anything other than what the government wants them to learn… and what they are allowed to believe… and think.
What has been circulated in the NZ media about Folou’s ‘Homophobia’ has been absolutely dishonest!

Read: Why does the Left have such venom when it comes to Folau?
And… ‘Faith comes first’ for unrepentant star Wallaby

For the record… I’m too a Christian, I do not hate homosexuals, yet I reserve the right to peacefully and freely preach about my Religion and quote the Bible… precisely as I have done for the last 34 years, and no Law from Parliament will stop me from doing this… They will have to arrest me to stop me!
This is precisely what the Right to free speech entails!
Go study the history of religious oppression and the birth of religious liberty in western civilisation… This is where the right to free speech was born!

Look at What Arderns’ Minion Andrew Little has to say about a political pamphlet that was circulated in Point Chev… this is her main man responsible for framing new Hates speech laws!
The Pamphlet called for ‘One law for all’… thats an *inclusive* Ideal in which all peoples of New Zealand are subject to the same laws… no favoritism… no discrimination… and yet he has called this *Racism*!

Quote: “The pamphlet titled One Treaty One Nation, calls for an end to state partnership with Māori, scrapping the Waitangi Tribunal, Māori electorates and wards and says Māori have benefited from colonisation lifting them out of “a violent stone age existence”.

Andrew Little who is overseeing a review of hate speech in the wake of the terrorist attacks told the Herald his view was the pamphlet is racist.

“It peddles myths about pre-European Maori society that historical scholarship does not bear out. If it demonstrates anything, it is that the author of it is an ignorant fool.”

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How Arse-backwards and hypocritical could anyone possibly be???
The Man is worse than an imbecile!
Hes a Dangerous Political snake… and if he thinks by writing legislation that outlaws political opinions that disagree with his own patently wrapped Ideas he has another thing coming!
Little is suggesting this pamphlet calling for one law for all is written by some nutcase when in reality it is expressing a view that is held by a great portion of New Zealanders including many respected politicians more than his equal and many other prominent and intelligent New Zealanders.
The Principle of Racial equality is neither ‘Anti-Maori’ nor Fringe!
It is a legitimate Political position held by thousands of New Zealanders, well reasoned, and has been a foremost topic of elections for the past 50 years!
Does Andrew Little think he can impose his own liberal apartheid views by labeling opposition as hate speech?

Read: Anti-Māori pamphlet show gaps in hate speech law: Andrew Little calls for action

Here is the Pamphlet (Thanks Kiwi Front line)

As a Libertarian… I reserve my right to propagate the Idea of *One law for all New Zealanders* and to fight for the Principle of Justice… *Racial equality before the law*… just as I have done for the past two decades, and no new ‘hate speech laws’ written under the excuse of the Christchurch atrocity
will silence me from condemning the apartheid state that Ardern and Little are now at the helm!
I dont care if Andrew Little believes that Fighting for Racial equality is somehow ‘Anti-Maori’ and Hate speech!
It is not hate speech! I do not Hate Maori… I am a Maori myself!
I want what is best for them and all the people of New Zealand, and I condemn as unjust and an absolute failure the current Apartheid syatem that has not lifted Maori out of the gutter of our Social statistics, but has been a gigantic extortion racket!
I will not stop… I will never cease from seeking to expose the dishonesty of the Governments False revisionist history that seeks to deceive New Zealanders into accepting the lie that the Treaty of Waitangi created a two tier Racial system rather than uniting *all the peoples of New Zealand as one people under one law and one sovereign with equal rights* The Government will have to arrest me and throw me in jail because I will never stop using my natural right to freely speak the truth!
I declare that the current policies of Waitangi separatism are Evil!

Read:
One month on from Christchurch mosque shootings, big changes are still coming

So New Zealanders… will you surrender our country to such evil and tyrannical powers as have manifested themselves under Jacinda Arderns Psychotic Government????

I wont!
I have Children and Grand children who I want to live free and know the truth!
Id rather die in jail that surrender Political Freedom and My faith to the evil powers that threaten these most precious of values!
Will I have to rot in a dungeon as a political prisoner for New Zealanders rights to free speech and the principle of racial equality before the Law???
That this is even a possibility shows how dangerous to rights and freedom this new proposal for hate speech legislation is!

We can be sure that Little’s new Hate speech laws will result in a wave of censorship and Punishment for Thought Crimes… maybe the will force some of us to drink Hemlock for not worshiping the State Gods and Corrupting the Youth!

Read: BAD APPLES. HERETICS AND INFIDELS.

Political writer Dr Muriel Newman has written about these things in an article named ‘A totalitarian state’ and I quote…

“Calls for restrictions on free speech by radical Government MPs should raise the alarm about our future. While the Bill of Rights protects our freedom of thought, expression, and association, as we have already seen through the Censor’s bans, these rights are fragile and can easily be taken away.

Laws to protect New Zealanders from ‘hate’ can already be found in the Crimes Act, Harmful Digital Communications Act, Human Rights Act, and the Sentencing Act. If the Government is committed to stronger deterrents, they simply need to enforce the existing laws.

Already the call for action against ‘hate’ since the Christchurch attack has resulted in people losing their jobs for making thoughtless remarks, websites being blocked, and a social media crackdown being implemented. It may also have been responsible for a man losing his life.
New Zealanders who value the freedom and liberty that underpins our society should strongly oppose new laws to ban ‘hate’. Such laws, that would enable the Police to act against anyone expressing ideas contrary to those deemed acceptable by the Government, have proven to be a disaster in countries where they have been introduced, over-criminalising the population and allowing vexatious complainants to destroy lives. “…

I concur with Muriel, and implore the People of New Zealand to rally and protest against this Hitlarian Drive against Freedom in our country!
Do you want your children to grow up free?
Do you reserve the right to teach them your own Values and beliefs?
Or do you surrender these priceless things .. and give your children’s minds to the State to brainwash them with the beliefs and ideals these Political psychopaths running the machine?
Satan laughing spreads his wings.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

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World War 3 On The World Wide Web. The Crushing Of Free Speech in New Zealand.

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This post will speak of political corruption of the Left wing of an absolutely frightening Magnitude, yet still just because I am critical of the Left wing does not automatically mean I am a supporter of the Right!
I emphatically declare I am no apologist for the right whom I dislike for virtually the same reasons I dislike the Left.
I am a Libertarian and so I believe *Both* the Left and the Right are oppressive ideologies.
I am a Defender and advocate for the equal rights of all… Freedom, and self responsibility as opposed to the left and Right whom Both promote Obese and heavy handed Nanny State.

I have been driven to make this clear given the Left seek to label anyone who critisises them as being Far Right… and unless you have been living under a rock for the past two weeks you ought to know that our Lefty Liberal government has declared *open season* on the Far Right.

For Radical leftists the Christchurch Terror attack has been a public relations Boon!
Not only has this event catapulted their SJW Liberal Prime minister Jacinda Ardern into the political stratosphere… her cult of Personality profiting the most from this atrocity, the Left has also used this Grotesque act of violence as the pretext to justify equally Grotesque and insidious political Rights violations esp of anyone who does not endorse her Left wing Governments heavy handed agenda which is nothing new of itself… yet it has been accelerated by this Heinous crime… fulfilling the expressed desires of the Christchurch Terrorist *precisely*… like clockwork!

^ So How exactly does the Manifesto prohibition work? As you can see overseas You-tubers who are not subject to the censorship rule are talking about, quoting it. etc… as you would expect Free people concerned about the facts will inevitably do! Is it a Crime now for New Zealanders to watch overseas videos like this and to share them as I am doing now?… even though I am not promoting hate, or racism, but openly discussing these events as an independent Libertarian Journalist and blogger?
How are we to know?

I have zero desire to be ‘interviewed’ by the police, zero desire to have my Blog or facebook page shut down, zero desire to be prosecuted for breaching any censorship, zero desire to have my name associated with the Far Right, zero desire to be put on any sort of terrorist watch list, yet in this Post Christchurch political atmosphere *These are the sorts fears* any activist voice must now boldly overcome if they are not to be reduced to silence.
All these types of blatant rights violations arbitrarily imposed … with little or no safeguards or due process… or right of appeal… founded upon poorly formulated and hastily enacted and heavily prejudiced legislation… which no consideration for the huge potential for injustices such powers are likely to inflict upon innocent parties.
It is unbelievable that I am speaking about such things in my beloved country New Zealand!
Its quite frankly terrifying!
The dampening down of open dialogue and the silencing of criticism and an atmosphere of fear to speak is very real, and vocal people like myself have no guarantee of safety… no guarantee all the things I just listed above… or worse will not befall me because I dare to speak out against this government activity.

Read… More NZers under surveillance: Andrew Little authorises spy agencies to do more ‘intrusive’ activities

… nonetheless this is my Latest blogpost (of several) about the Christchurch Terror attack which is likely to draw the enmity of Ardern supporters and the gaze of the New Zealand Police because in peacefully and righteously exercising my rights to freely express my political opinion I must condemn our Governments over-the-top, response to this vile crime, esp with regard to their censorship, the arrests that have followed those whom have not complied with the new prohibitions, and with respect to the banning of Semi-automatic rifles, and also what now appears to be a policy of police harassment of people who identify as ‘far right nationalists’, yet who in ever other aspect are living peacefully and not committing any crimes, not calling for violence, but might be expressing their personal political opinions via social media… just as the thousands of ‘Maori Sovereignty’ people do all day in this country… and other ‘First Nations’ groups and their self loathing white liberal supporters do 24/7 all over the globe.
Its interesting to note that the new Ardern scheme does not include the Police rounding up ‘Maori sovereignty’ racist radicals whose mouths are filled with race hatred, and whom along with Green extremists have been caught red handed planning terrorism… have all new Zealanders forgotten about Tame iti and the Greens who were caught in the Urewara ranges terrorist training camp?
Has everyone forgotten the true chain of events by which these dangerous radicals escaped justice… not because they were innocent, but because of Police bumbling and poorly written anti-terrorist legislation that had been too hastily written in the wake of 911?
Doesn’t anyone wonder why all this has been swept under the carpet so that the focus can be pointed at White Supremacy Groups, when in truth Maori separatism Maori Nationalism is a far more militant force in New Zealand… to the point that it has become normalised… and even *accepted!*
Instead of doing hard time Tame iti and Crew received an official apology!


Maori Sovereignty flag.

Update: 1-4-19 Read: Facebook Bans “White Nationalists”, Black Nationalists Still Welcome

*All these things being so, a clear Political prejudice* is patently on display… In New Zealand, and across the globe there are now select groups… identities… demographics upon which it is open season to defame, Malign and to provoke pubic prejudice against… Christians, Whites, Men, Heterosexuals, Meat eaters, Climate Change deniers, Anti-Vaxx, Drug law reformers, anti-immigration, anti-abortion, etc… To pour out all sorts of ‘hate’ upon these demographics and even promoting violence against them such as that violent and destructive Leftist group Antifa with their ‘Punch a Nazi’ motif… is not only understood to be a civil right … it has become some sort of trendy display of woke=ness and virtue!

Conversely to be openly critical of Radical Islam, Radical Maori separatism, Neo-Feminist sexism, Militant homosexuality and Vegetarianism, Climate change, Vaccinations, Drug prohibition, pro-immigration, pro-choice, etc … even when such critisism does not contain overt hatred or promote violence… can not only result in you being censored from the global and national public debate on social media, but in some instances even get you arrested, fined or jailed!

We are witnessing a full-blown attack on Free speech by the Left who are using Every oppressive measure and tactic to see that their political opinions are the only views that may be lawfully expressed.
The Left now display those definitive signs of tyranny and oppression… Thought Crimes and punishment for disagreeing with the State!
North Korea anyone????
Wake up people!
We are engaged in a War of Ideals and Values that threatens to destroy Liberty in Western Societies and render us all slaves under a Police State.
We are witnessing nothing short of a Global Coup by the Left that at all times grows like a malignant tumor from the blood of Terrorist attacks like what happened in Christchurch.
Tyranny thrives in chaos.
The World wide web is the theater of this world war… and Liberty is loosing.

We Now live in the age of internet Social media which has basically superseded all the other traditional means by which Political activism and discussion has been carried out, Email groups have evaporated, Newspapers and Letters to Ed are in heavy decline, Postal communication is almost dead, and since 911 and the rise of groups like Antifa, it has become more dangerous to stand on a soapbox and express your views in the public square because the Police will shut you down.. and violent leftists, and others groups such as of intolerant Muslims, Pro-choice nutters, etc that have no respect for the rights of others to free speech will attack you…. and these criminals are seldom arrested… we see this happening a lot in England via reports on the internet… and yet these same violent leftist groups appear to be able to march the streets like a horde of savages chanting violent slogans and intent… and even engaging in Mass destruction of property… while the police stand by and do nothing!

So Now that a vast amount of Political debate is happening on Social media we can understand why Leftist Liberals in Government are so hell bent on Threatening the likes of Facebook with prosecution for not shutting down and curtailing the expression of political opinions that the Leftist governments disapprove of.
You can see that if the average non-celebrity, Good, Peaceful, and well meaning Critic of the Liberal agenda is banned from Facebook and social media that they have effectively been denied a voice and have been eliminated from the Public debate.

And how in fact are these Internet Giants like Facebook supposed to enact this Grand scheme of suppression of anti-liberal free speech on their Social media platforms in compliance of what Leftist governments are now demanding?
Despite the latest statements by facebook that they will deploy new AI tec to filter live streams in an effort to prevent terrorist live streaming, why is it that *no body* is standing up and pointing to the Elephant in the room that *no AI algorithm* can be written that can justly filter the wheat from the chaff of public dialogue… and that because of this fact of reality even the most sophisticated and ingenious AI will still result in the unjust censorship of thousand of innocent people… will certainly result in political prejudice… all for the sake of a diabolical and delusional fantasy of the left that the Internet can be so policed and restricted?
All for the impossible task and expressed sake of thwarting a tiny minority on Madmen!

And how can Facebook fulfill the deluded promise they are making to Liberal governments that they will ban All so-called right wing White nationalist, anti migrant sentiment from their platforms in places like Europe without cutting off 50% of their users given how mainstream Right wing nationalism has become in those parts of the world?

And then consider the alternative to 100% AI censorship… relying on social net workers themselves to report instances of posts and comments that ‘Violate facebook community standards’.
This function is abused to such a massive degree by the petty minded, the prudish, and esp by the fanatically biased Leftist Activists who use the ‘report’ function to attack anyone whom they do not like, getting them automatically banned.
Media Giants like Facebook cannot be expected to hire enough Objectively minded moderators to manually consider and process the sheer number of false reports and so Facebook must then to some degree rely on automated responses… that again results in unjust bans much to the delight of the Malevolent serial activist ‘reporter’… a vile creature who has zero respect for the free speech of others with whom they disagree… and hate!
These are the Terrorists of the internet… the enemies of freedom… who seek their own political ends by devious and underhanded means.
Yes… All These tools that are supposed to eliminate Hate speech have been turned into powerful tools for the haters and the prejudiced, and because ultimately they are all anti-free speech… they are resulting in a social media that is heavily skewed, heavily oppressive, to the degree that it is Hobbling the most important vanguard of democratic societies!
Should we be surprised that the Leftist Lie and Massive Fake News campaigns about Trumps Collusion with Russia … their so-called interference with the elections via the internet and defeat the Leftist Hillary Clinton… All Lies… All hysteria… yet has now been turned into a tool by the left to heavily interfere with the internet and thereby corrupt the fairness of future elections?

All this tyranny and lies, and delusions have resulted because the whole world seems to have forgotten why *Free speech* is such an essential component of a free society!
The world has forgotten that once you allow the Government to silence those on the fringes that the next morning you awaken to the fact that now it is a crime for you to have any opinion that is not official policy!
This has almost nothing to do with fighting terrorism… that is just an excuse for the idiots to believe… This massive Agenda has everything to do with Power and control of Everybody and everything on Earth!

I have spoken of this all being squarely a leftist ideological battle, which is undoubtedly true, yet because there is currently so little distinction between those who pretend to be center left and those who purport to be center right in New Zealand, there is little hope for rescue from what is happening here and now from the Leading Opposition party … National… and in fact it is difficult not to assume Simon Bridges and co would have been any less heavy handed than Ardern!
Every noise they have made indicates they are no more interested in defending the rights of Free speech, or Gun rights than Ardern is… and in fact we can expect many National MPs to Rubber stamp Arderns Legislation when they pass through the parliamentary legislature process.
So We must look for help elsewhere… New Zealand is in Crisis yet there appears to be No political party willing to stand up for our rights and liberties.
New Zealand desperately needs a New Libertarian Party!

Unless there is a massive public backlash against all this and unless Facebook grows a pair of Gonads and tells the governments of the world that they will no longer pander to the suppression of free speech under political duress… that they will no longer buy into the Political line that they are themselves as a company are in any way responsible for what their users think or say…. and that they will instead defend Liberty and be prepared to face Governments in court for their unreasonable and oppressive demands… that the truth is that it is just as *impossible* to justly moderate social media to the extent these deranged and power crazed socialists expect as it is for the police to crack down on any one and everyone under the pretext of preventing future Terrorist attacks…. and that on both counts Freedom works better for the good of society while Censorship, harassment, and gun prohibitions only serve the interests of Terrorists and Tyrants and the expense of the Liberty and safety of the people… only if we all rise up in protest and put an end to all this leftist power-tripping madness will there be any hope that future elections will be Free and fair,… *only then* can we hope that our children will grow up Free.
And only the most feeble minded voting idiot does not understand that since the Democrats lost to Trump, and Lost the Brexit vote… that this has been their plan all along.
Its time to stand up for Liberty People… or die slaves!
And the Terrorists and Tyrants will have won!
Evil prevails when Good men do nothing … and the Crisis is at hand!
Disregard my warnings at your Peril.

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Independent Libertarian Journalist and Activist.

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What follows is my First Facebook post after been let out of Facebook jail yesterday…
I have posted it hear as not only was it the seed for the blog post above I also want to save it here just in case my facebook page gets Zucced.

So I am now out of Facebook Jail.
My crime was to publish the fact that Jacinda Ardern is a Puppet of the Christchurch terrorist… doing exactly what he expressly hoped and rightly expected leftist politicians like her would do in his manifesto ‘The Great Replacement’.
I quoted the relevant passage from the manifesto where he said this *Before doing so* was made a crime by our tyrannical state Chief Censor David Shanks who should be ashamed of himself for his violation of our rights and liberties under threat of up to 14 years jail…. for sharing a document of historic significance that is available to the whole world to freely discuss… except for us sad little Kiwi sheeple thanks to fact that we are being run by incompetent and tyrannical imbeciles.
Many people on my friends list probably did not miss any of my posts… those who either do not bother to read them anyway… others would have smirked and have enjoyed the fact that I was jailed because they despise my Libertarian values and opinions and worship Jacinda Ardern, and Lord her heavy hand.
Some will consider this first post out of jail to be foolhardy and think I ought to ‘tone down’ my opinions, rather than risk being thrown in jail again… or even receiving a knock at my door… yet I pity you fear driven sheeple that at such a time as this when our country requires bold defense of our rights, and the actions of our Parliament are punishing, and censoring, and making criminals out of innocent people… that you have already been reduced to cowering slaves.
Now without mentioning any names while in jail I was still able to read posts on my news feed and I became aware of a serious act of oppression and suppression of one individual by the Police over this business. They are not a personal friend. They are just someone I friended because they made many libertarian oriented posts that I agree with, and I even signed onto one of their ‘rights pages’… and from their personal posts that were written about their ‘visits from the police’, I am very concerned about what is happening to our rights and liberties… and yet this person then disclosed the fact that they are a ‘White Nationalist’… but apparently not ‘White supremacist’.
This was a surprise for me to hear this and had I known this before I friended them and joined their page I would certainly have done *Neither!*.
I have no desire to associate with White Bigots, than Maori Bigots, or any other type of racist Bigotry!
Anyone who is familiar with my Libertarian activism over the last 20 years knows I am passionate about racial equality before the law, and not opposed to immigration, or Refugees, and that I have been vocal in the defense of these values and principles.
And so I am choosing to dis-associate myself from this individual just as I have done in the past from others whom have displayed Racist ‘white nationalist’ or ‘Maori separatist’ overtones.
Nonetheless and despite the fact that the Christchurch Terrorist was a White Nationalist Environmental Extremist Fascist I still condemn heavy handed Police treatment of people like this guy, and believe such treatment will only serve to pour Gasoline on the fire!
By oppressing and suppressing the views of people like this you are not only committing a crime against them… you will certainly provoke outrage and radicalise unstable members who would otherwise would have remained benign… and so this sort of Draconian management of the problem will result in *The very opposite* outcome of what is intended by our simpleton government and their minions.
Free speech acts not only as one of our only defenses against Tyranny… one of the most potent means of defeating Evil ideologies… it also acts as a pressure relief valve for people who dont like the status quo… they can blow off steam… and we can either ignore them, or challenge them via reason, etc yet as soon as you start to oppress them and suppress them this puts a cap on the pressure cooker and cranks up the heat… and you can then *expect an explosion* (im not talking about nutters who call for rape and murder).
So these are my first thoughts having been released. and Hopefully I am not thrown straight back in jail for critisising our Great leaders…. yet I will not be reduced to being their mute slave.

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A BLOGPOST TO EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE NOT REDACTED EXCERPTS FROM THE TERRORIST MANIFESTO ‘THE GREAT REPLACEMENT’ FROM MY OTHER BLOG POSTS WRITTEN BEFORE THE CHIEF CENSOR BANNED IT.

THE SHAME OF MAORI RADICALISM. HATE AND VIOLENCE.

COMMY FASCIST SCUM ESCAPE JUSTICE.

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The Christchurch Terrorist attack, PM Ardern’s desire to ban semi-Automatic rifles, and the delusion that will make New Zealanders safer.

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Note: Tyranny has been running amok here in New Zealand since the Christchurch Terrorist Atrocity happened with Censorship, and suppression, People getting arrested for mere comments on Facebook! Its like The Death of Free speech has arrived.
My Blogpost (below) was written *before* many of these Censorship laws were rushed into being and so it contains references to the now banned manifest… yet if you go and read my latest blogpost here you will understand why I have not deleted these references from my post below.

I also wrote another Blog post on this subject before that Censorship ban Here and another *after the Ban here … in which I explain why I have not redacted excerpts of the manifesto ‘the great replacement’ from these related blog posts.

As a Christian Libertarian New Zealander my sincere condolences go out to the Muslim community in Christ church and their greater families and friends… and their wounded in the hospitals are in my prayers.

This horrific act of terrorism has caused our Nation such a deep wound that cuts to the heart, and my post today is like so many others that will be written about this crime, and asking what can be done to prevent this sort of atrocity happening again, yet My words will not be in support of the plan being preached down from above by Jacinda Ardern who is promising the state will do more to keep us all safe.
I want to suggest that this crime is a wake up call for New Zealanders to snap out of their childish and misplaced dependence on Misguided politicians like her and to take more responsibility for our own defense.
I want New Zealanders to wake up to the fact that we have already been robbed of many of our natural rights to take care of our own security and to utterly reject Arden’s plans to render us even more defenseless, and take away our Semi-automatic firearms that are 99.999% used for peaceful purposes… hunting.
So Our Great leader thinks little about destroying the rights of millions of New Zealanders over the actions of a handful of extremists.

And in fact The terrorist expressly chose firearms because he knew that would cause politicians to try and Ban guns….
This being So Jacinda Ardern is proving to be a gullible puppet on a string!
A Predictable Simpleton.
In his manifesto ‘The Great Replacement’ published on line before the attack the Killer said the reason he used firearms over other options was to achieve maximum Media Hype and to provoke Leftist politicians (like Jacinda Ardern) into passing draconian fire arms restrictions!
And like a Puppet on a string that is precisely what Ardern has immediately proposed to do!
The following is an extract from the manifesto… ‘The Great Replacement’…. warning… its vile stuff…

Quote:

Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A
ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane
attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources. I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra
media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the
politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world. The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines. With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to
abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see
this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic
polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing
of the US along cultural and racial lines. Why did you choose New Zealand as a place to attack?
New Zealand was not the original choice for attack, I only arrived to New
Zealand to live temporarily whilst I planned and trained, but I soon found
out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere
else in the West. Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of
the assault on our civilization, that no where in the world was safe, the
invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world
and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass
immigration. Was there any reason you attacked that(those) mosque(s) in
particular?
Originally the mosque in Dunedin was the main target,particularly after
watching the video on their facebook page named “Otago muslim
association”


(From Stuff here)

Socialist Governments are absolutely idiotic.
What we are seeing here with Ardern’s declaration of a future ban on semi automatic weapons, is the lie that Socialists sell the world over … the claim that the more defenseless they render everybody… the more they take away our rights… the more laws they pass… that the safer we all are supposed to be…. *when the opposite is true*
Contemplate the fate of the Venezuelan population whom complied with their socialist government, and were disarmed!
The more defenseless they render us… the more exposed to violence we become!

Ardern’s ‘Super genius socialist plan’ is no better than the *Same utter rubbish* being pedaled in London due to the so-called ‘Knife crisis’.
Having Banned handguns there… people are now Stabbing each other. ( Where Murder abounds is a testament to a moral crisis that is something socialists cant fix by their stupid prohibitions)

In London the Socialists idiots running the place there are coming up with all sorts of suggested new laws and prohibitions!
Banning home delivery of knives… suggesting all knife points be rounded off ‘by law[… etc etc.
(See here)
And here… UK official says all knives should be fitted with GPS trackers to fight rise in stabbings. He’s mocked mercilessly.
He added that ‘it’s time we had a national database like we do with guns’!!!!!

Talk about unhinged!

Reality pill people!
You cannot ‘Ban’ the universe into being a ‘safe space’ for defenseless children…. these Liberal Tyrants are turning our nations into Children’s daycare centers… and it does not work!
They are are simply making the population more dependent upon the State… and therefor less self reliant… and more exposed.
Ie *Less safe!*
They are turning our societies into Prisons… yet even in prisons Dangerous criminals can still make shanks and murder you… even in a prison with hundreds of guards and all Guns and knives Banned!
Only *Idiots* think these prohibitions are a good idea… or have any hope of success!
The concept that any time something bad happens is an indication that the government needs to do ‘more’ is retarded.
I want you to think about this instead… These terrible events can just as easily be seen as an indication the Government needs to do *less*!
Instead of the Govenment taking away more of our rights, they ought to be restoring our rights they have already foolishly taken away!
*Re-Empowering us* to look out for our own security.
This is what a society of Free, enlightened, and self-reliant Citizens would be… a society that does not believe the foolish idea that our politicians can keep us safe.

Yet this *Do less* response to these sorts of horrors rarely occurs to the minds of the Sheeple who seek to rely on Governments to keep them safe rather than take responsibility for their own safety…
The Sheeple refuse to see this atrocity as proof of the failure of Nanny State Socialism.
Sheeple prefer to have Less rights rather than More personal responsibility…. and this childish mentality is precisely what feeds the Socialist politicians and why these Little brainless tyrants get elected instead of more honest, and competent candidates.
Socialism Feeds on Paranoia.
Liberty requires Bravery…. and so any event that spooks the sheeple results in more Socialism… less freedom.

Why did the Maniac choose to come to New Zealand to shoot peaceful Muslims instead of going to Syria and shooting *Real Islamic Terrorists*?
Because though he maybe consumed with hatred … he is not *Insane*… He knew our Socialist state has disarmed *our Muslims* … and did not fancy the Idea of having his victims shooting back!
Now… up until this Cowardly atrocity happened, its most likely that New Zealand Muslim migrants would have had little concerns about being dis-armed by the New Zealand government, and many of them probably bought into the delusion that this law has a lot to do with why New Zealand is so much ‘Safer’ than many of the places they have escaped from… yet that is not the case at all!

What causes New Zealand to be a safer place is not our Gun Restrictions, but our policy of Tolerance and relative religious liberty that comes from our enlightened and Founding Protestant Culture.
And Muslim immigrants have taken full advantage of this liberty and tolerance we enjoy here in this country to maintain their Islamic faith and community, and they are *practicing this tolerance of others too*, and this is the foundation of peaceful co-existence in a free society made up of disparate groups , each following their own conscience and peacefully worshiping God as they believe is right.
*Its this Tollerance, and respect for the religious liberty of others that makes New Zealand such a great place to live… for everyone.

In this sense New Zealand has been an example to the world that Freedom of Religion works and that Muslims, Christians, Jews, Atheists, and Hindus, can all live together in the same communities to mutual benefit… based upon the common values that we all want to be safe in our lives and property, and be free to follow our own values while respecting the rights of our neighbors to do the same.

Yet even though by far the Majority of New Zealanders… both Native and new arrivals are tolerant and peaceful, there will always exist a tiny number of psychopaths and maliciously warped minds like these Freaks whom have cause our Nation such a horrific wound.

The lie That Socialist politicians continue to pedal … and the delusion of the Timid sheeple who worship Nanny State and vote for them… those who have no concept of the value of Freedom or self reliance … is that Socialist Nanny State can keep us all safe… if she is allowed to take away more of our rights and Liberties…
This is not only a dishonest lie that renders us all sitting ducks… it is also a Childish fantasy!
Its the Children’s fairy story about a Utopian world where folk have no need of Guns… where there are no Bad People who disobey the laws… dont make Guns or bombs… where the Government and police are angels and never act tyrannically or unjustly … etc etc
This is not the world we live in children!
This is the type of Childish thinking that refuses to see that though we have relative peace and liberty, and religious tolerance, that places like Mosques, Churches, and even schools, should have armed guards, and that it should be no big deal for ordinary people to carry the means of defending themselves.

I know that that last comment will have the sheep absolutely bleating!
Yet it is their sheepish terror that refuses to acknowledge *The real world truthfulness* of what I have said… and they want to cling to their fantasy that a disarmed population can be kept safe from this sort of Terrorism by Nanny state!

It has been reported that it took Police 36 minutes before they engaged the Terrorist from when they were first notified there was an active Gunman on the loose… and by then nearly 50 people were murdered and dozens more seriously injured.

And that we are taliking now about *Semi-autos* not Full automatic machine guns (which have already been banned) is a testament to *The Creeping socialist agenda to ban all privately owned guns* and leave only the State with fire arms!
The Tyrannical Government’s *wet Dream*… an absolutely helpless and subject population of slaves!
This is why The founding Fathers of American freedom enshrined the second amendment and why Tyranny loving Socialists Dems in the US are hell bent on abolishing the second.

The truth is This Terrorist attack against peaceful worshipers and immigrants proves We New Zealanders have lived in a socialist dream bubble that has burst.
The Root cause of this Terrorism is not too many Guns… but not enough… and it should become the norm that we have armed guards and *more gun rights not less* … generally speaking.
This is the reality pill that so few sheepish are willing to swallow and why our naive and simpleton Woke SJW Prime minister has already announced that semi-automatic fire arms will be outlawed!
This was a 100% predictable knee jerk reaction from her… I knew this would be her plan as soon as I herd about this crime, as it is Textbook for Socialist Liberals to use events like this to further empower themselves and take way the rights of the Millions of law abiding people under the pretext of public safety… and to try and keep the idiots believing the myth…maintaining the charade that * NANNY WILL KEEP US SAFE*… even though this Terror attack proves the lie!
Semi-automatic guns are the mainstay of Hunting in New Zealand.
They are Tools… not ‘Weapons’!
And we cannot allow our Virtue signally Woke SJW PM make New Zealand a laughing stock to the rest of the world… and an even more attractive destination for foreign extremists to commit these atrocities in the future!

Our Nation is rapidly being effeminated by the insanity of Lefty Liberalism.
It was only last century that New Zealanders were renowned for their Martial excellence distinguishing themselves in two world wars and that our enemies were very wary of our Nation because we were known to be a Nation of fearless warriors … Proud Gun owners who knew knew how to use them , and taught our children how to use them too.
*That is the sort of Mindset* that would make our country far less attractive to cowardly terrorists!
The very opposite message of what our foolish PM is broadcasting to the world.
Wake up New Zealand!


Professional Virtue signaler NZ PM Jacinda Ardern puts on her I care for Muslims ‘hat’

Well thankfully we do not yet live under *Her dictatorship* so thankfully she does not have the Authority to impose such an extreme and tyrannical Law upon us, and New Zealand still has a strong Hunting and gun ownership community (50 000 guns were imported into the country last year), and I am hoping New Zealander rally and publicly demonstrate against this new and absurd and extreme Gun regulation proposal… and I have high expectations that Jacinda Ardern will fail.
Lets hope so.
Read more here…

Muslims and Christians, and Schools, and even Liquor stores and dairies etc need to look to their own security, and the Government needs to roll back regulations that hinder these places from being able to bear the means of self defense against dangerous Criminals who already flout the Law!
I have read that the Guns used in the Christchurch terrorist attack were *illegally obtained*… and so why would any fool think that passing more laws is gong to hinder these sorts of fanatical criminals?
Stop being Gullible idiots to the delusional failed tyrannical prohibitions of Simpletons in parliament.

On the one hand while our PM Basks in the limelight as the next Messiah… doning a hijab… hugging people and promises to cover the funeral costs of the victims, and other financial assistance, her minions in the NZ police were busy trying to suppress New Zealanders from veiwing and sharing footage of the attack:
See: Christchurch mosque attack: Up to 14 years’ jail for video sharers as Commissioner asks Facebook to give police names

This Grotesquely heavy handed suppression of the Truth is barefaced Liberal tyranny!
Of Course the NZ government and police dont want people to see the truth of their failure to keep New Zealanders safe… or for any sudden enlightenment to break out that the government are partly responsible for the death toll because they have disarmed us all by law leaving us exposed to criminals and terrorists..
They dont want New Zealanders to be shocked int demanding their rights back to Concealed carry of side arms for their own defense!
So this is about suppression of truth for the sake of the political agenda of the powers that be… and agenda they seek to further impose with their plans for more heavy handed Gun regulations.

When the Evil was raging in Christchurch …Many heroic deeds and exploits were done in the face of this monstrous Crime!
So called ‘Toxic Masculinity’ was on display in all its glory…
Men gave their lives attempting to stop the Gunman.
Fathers took bullets shielding their children.
others took grave risks to aid the injured.
Read one here

It is the height of foolishness to think that any new measures …any new prohibitions can grantee such atrocities never happen again in the future!
The best you can hope to achieve is a well armed and proficient Citizenry who are ready and capable to look to their own defense.

Lets not let the Terrorists or the Tyrants win.
Lets up Keep our Rights and liberties, and our toleration and respect for the rights of others.
Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

Update: ‘Panic buying’ of guns to beat law change after Christchurch shooting

This is what New Zealanders think of Ardern’s Gun control plans!
AWESOME!
Dont trust the Government to keep you safe!

Update 18-3-19

Update 20-3-19 Read… ISIS call for extremists to take ‘revenge’ for New Zealand mosque shootings… And yet despite such threats our PM still wants to take away even more of our guns and leave us even more defenseless!

More from Tim…

GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATES CARE ABOUT YOUR WIVES, MOTHERS, AND DAUGHTERS.

TRIBUTE: HERO CHRISTIAN BIKER WITH AR 15 SHOOTS IT OUT WITH TACTICALLY PREPARED CHURCH PSYCHO-KILLER .

ANTI-GUN LOBBY PROPAGANDA BACKFIRES. WOMAN ARE SAFER WITH GUNS.

GUNS ACROSS AMERICA. CHRISTIAN PASTOR SHAHRAM HADIAN SPEAKS IN DEFENCE OF 2ND AMENDMENT

.MORE GUNS LESS CRIME…

FOR GOODNESS SAKE…STICK TO YOUR GUNS!

AMERICA HAS FORGOTTEN ITS ROOTS! LAVOY’S DAUGHTER RAISES THE CALL!

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‘Single Use’ shopping bags! How Socialism turns virtue into vice.

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Some one I know was at their childs school purchasing Schoolbooks for the new year when another parent struggling with a Big stack of stationary was asked if she would like a bag, it was then that my friend said she had plenty of bags at home and asked the school staff if they would like her to drop them in, yet they declined her offer exclaiming “Oh we dont used plastic bags at this school!”.
Obviously this was part of their ‘Conscientious Environmentalism’.
‘How virtuous’ one might think… ‘Great example for the children!’ one might think… and yet again… how disingenuous given the ecological fact that the more often a plastic bag is utilized… the less wasteful… the more ‘environmentally friendly’ it becomes… when you do the math… so this school is *Not* really acting conscientiously but is actually ‘not thinking’… I think thier no plastic bag policy is simply pretentious ‘virtue signalling’ and pushing a populist Liberal anti-plastic bag agenda… which has managed to get the New Zealand government to impose a freakish prohibition on Supermarkets using ‘single use’ plastic bags to carry groceries from the counter… yet you can still put your various veges into their own plastic bags… etc etc, and now for 15 cents you can buy Plastic bags that are far more substantial than the old ones with handles and Big Word ‘REUSE, REUSE, REUSE’ printed on them! 😀
Its just plain weird.

The whole thing is absurd and I am sure that mathematically this new prohibition has achieved less than nothing for the New Zealand environment… and yet no doubt there are thousands of Anti-plastic bag Liberals who are gushing with delight when they see the thousands of socially engineered Shoppers using hessian baggies to transport their purchases to their Fossil fuel burners.
And of course this is only the beginning of theses Environmentalist lobby to use Government force to impose their personal values on their subject Neighbours.
What will be their next target? Disposable paper cups and straws have already been targeted… what about Disposable paper towels?
They are already hard at work trying to discourage people from buying Meat and dairy products, and are lobbying for Tax increases on these things as we speak!
This is how Socialism works… how socialism despises Freedom… and encourages Taxes,Tyranny and oppression to grow… all under the cloak of virtue… ‘Saving the planet’… etc etc.
And absolutely nothing is safe from their Self righteous gaze.

“Who Cares!” a Woke Vegan might declare!
For the Masses of zealous Eco-warriors they have little concern for how they achieve their goals… to them ‘the end justifies the means’.
To them if Government crushes *their values* and refuses to impose *their whims* ‘Government is Evil’, yet when Woke Party political people wield the power and they use it to Crush the values of those they despise… all of a sudden ‘Government is Awesome!’.
Socialism is all about Power and Control.
Their ‘Woke’ agenda is that they hate the dairy and Meat industries and want to force everyone into becoming vegetarians, and to do this they go to extreme lengths in their propaganda to demonise these things and make out that they are on a crusade for ‘Better Diets and Health’ when in reality they simply want to destroy their ideological enemies… people who enjoy Steak and Ice cream… and there is no extreme to which they will not stoop to Legislate away our freedom to choose for ourselves.

Yet Let me state for the record that Socialism *is immoral*… Socialism is *Anti-virtue/pro-slavery*!!!
Walk with me a while and i’ll explain how Socialism can take Good Values and turn them into the evil tools of oppression… it can take virtuous ideals and make them the tools of Evil powers… and this current plastic bag ban is a great example.

Now I know of a good and decent person (whose name is not important for the purpose of this monologue) who from reading and watching all the horror stories about ‘Massive floating islands of plastic waste in the oceans… photos of Fish and birds with plastic items trapping them, or carcasses on the beach with plastic spilling out of their entrails , etc (some of these images are obviously Politically fabricated for propaganda purposes) she has become very concerned about Plastic waste in the environment to the degree that she will wash out all the plastic packaging from their household usage, and store it all, and then travel to wherever necessary to ensure it is either recycled or otherwise ‘ethically disposed of’.
Even though I believe New Zealanders suffer a gigantic amount of deceptive Propaganda about Environmentalism, I would never suggest that her concerns for the environment are not of themselves virtuous, or that her activities and self imposed disciplines with respect to plastic were not completely within her rights so to act… and that as long as she was doing these things voluntarily… even if some of her behavior was not actually achieving *any real world benefits to the environment* … she is absolutely within her right to try and live her life according to her own values and the dictates of her heart…That is what having personal values and beliefs are all about! That is what *self responsibility is all about* … and this is what a free society is all about… having a society of enlightened self responsible citizens who voluntarily follow virtue!
And ultimately… if by any means the world is to be saved from Evil… That is how you go about saving the environment!
Multipy this type of personal voluntary action, and that is how you have a population that does not need a policeman in every bush to prevent them from littering… or Government Laws to prevent them from making poor choices when they shop.

Mason building a screed coat cement

And a Year ago… when she was voluntarily bringing her own carry bags to the supermarket so as to avoid using the plastic bags they provide for convenience… she could claim that she was acting *Conscientiously and Virtuously*… but not now… not since the Labour Green Governments silly Ban on shopping Bags… because the Government has taken away any virtue there was in this activity, and effectively turned it into an act of involuntary slavery… and Virtue is a matter of Conscious action… not compulsion.
A year ago some supermarkets (like Countdown) were picking up on this populist environmental feeling and had decided that they would voluntarily stop using plastic carry bags!
Ie They acted *without the need for a government Law to be imposed*… and though this did impose some inconvenience for shoppers and some would not have appreciated that, many others like my environmentalist friend I have been talking about would have been greatly pleased by this and no doubt would have switched shops to do her shopping at Countdown… a perfect match of Capitalism and happy consumers… which because it was mutually voluntary… and involved no coercion… *this form of getting rid of plastic carry bags was completely within the Libertarian paradigm*… completely within the requisites of virtue… and showed that Social change *can and does happen without socialist Government intervention*… *yet of course the socialist Liberal Eco-warriors of The Labour and Green Parties have zero respect for Liberty and voluntary action* and effectively *RUINED* the progress of Freedom by imposing a nationwide ban on plastic supermarket carry bags… taking away from Countdown their ‘voluntary Progressive decision and point of difference with other supermarkets’… and now These political parties act/ ‘Virtue signal’ that *their use of political power has made New Zealand Cleaner and Green* when in reality our country was already moving in that direction *without prohibitions*… via voluntary conscious action.

These are the very same Socialist Political parties that have the cheek to think they are experts on Adult behaviour and the principle of Consent!!!
Everything they do… all their policies are anti voluntary action… Pro-force… anti-consent.
Multiply this Anti-freedom… anti- Voluntary action… anti-consent mentality and activity across the board and you easily see why Socialism is oppressive and tyrannical and functions by coercion… Not enlightened voluntary actions flowing from enlightened values.
It generates a Nation of Slavish zombies… whose actions are not truly virtuous at all!
A typical example of a virtue {Environmental concern) being used as a pseudo-moral justification for Evil Political parties manufacturing evil and oppressive laws.

And Like I said above this modus opperandi is constantly at work… constantly looking for more apparent ‘virtues’ to turn into political weapons to rob their enemies of their Freedom and to further their Party political ambitions.

And the bitter irony is that despite all the brainwashing about Global warming… all the eco-indoctrination going on in the School system… and all the pretentious Veganism and ‘Woke signaling’ we see, These Liberals can still be found *Littering* on our Beaches and roads!
This is because they have not been instilled with virtue… but have instead been lobotomized!
This is the un=expected consequence of Socialism’s attempt to circumvent personal values and Voluntary actions.
A society of Less personal virtue.

The Notion that ‘the end justifies the means’ turns out to mean Any supposed desired end can be dressed up as ‘Good for society’ and then used to pass Despotic Laws.

Libertarians already know all these things, and so my post is mainly hoping to reach out to ‘Woke folk’… eco-warriors, feminists, etc to show them how their values and ideals are being contorted and fooling them into supporting Tyranny… as surely a foolish Christians have been duped by Politicians into supporting tyranny against gays, Prostitutes, Drug uses, etc etc.
This is the *vice* I am referring to… the vice of supporting Totalitarian Government that tries to circumvent Liberty and personal virtue substituting these with Compulsions and prohibitions.
This is what I mean when I say Socialism systematically turns virtues (and values) into vice.

I despise being ‘Socially Engineered’ by Nasty politicians who have Zero respect for my Rights.
I constantly shake my fist towards the Beehive when I have spontaneously decided to ‘duck in’ to the Supermarket and get a few things only to realise I dont have any re-usable Bags with me in my car… yet a mountain of them at home in the cupboard!
Blowed if I am going to buy another 3-4 Hessian bag, and so I end up staking loose items in the dirty Boot of my car and drop a few in the carpark!
All this because of arrogant politicians want to pretend at being virtuous!
Via their Evil politics they can turn otherwise good intentions and values into a great new Evil… because a virtuous ‘End’ cannot justify *Evil and Oppressive means*.
The only virtue any individual can be credited for or take self esteem from are their personal voluntary actions and ideals.
And just because I oppose oppressive environmental legislation does not mean I dont care about the planet!
It means I believe in Liberty and seeking to make the world a better place by Reason, enlightenment, and *converting individuals* to following virtue.

I am a Christian who holds Christian values and beliefs, yet I know that Christian virtues cannot be imposed upon unbelievers by political force, but can only be legitimate when voluntarily embraced by those whom have herd the Christian arguments… and believe them in liberty…. for this is *the only way* true virtues like charity work!… from the heart! So Social welfare is *not Charity* because it is funded via involuntary Taxes… It is the opposite of charity… it is a counterfeit charity of the Devil… so too is the current Ban on the use of Plastic shopping bags a *counterfeit virtue*… Socialism is a Counterfeit Morality…. Satan appears as an Angel of light… and Laughing spreads his wings.

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Libertarian Independent.

More from Tim…

REAL VOLUNTARY PRIVATE CHARITY VS THE EVILS OF WELFARE AND POLITICAL FORCE. .

THE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP IS A VOLUNTARY PRIVATE SOCIETY, NOT A THEOCRATIC POLITICAL MOVEMENT

ALBERT J NOCK AND THE ATROPHY OF CHARITY AND SELF-RELIANCE

GEOFFREY PALMER AND THE RAPE CULTURE OF SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT. TEACHING LIBERALS THE PRINCIPLE OF CONSENT

SATURN’S CHILDREN. LIBERTARIANISM AND ABORTION.

Whale Oil Blog…. Plastic bags: Another useless green moral panic.

For Reference, an edited version of my blogpost appeared as a Guest post on the Whale Oil Blog here : How socialism turns virtues into vice

Stuff: The rise of vegetarians: 1 in 10 New Zealanders mostly, or completely, meat-free
Kiwis are eating less meat than ever, and are more concerned about plastic than climate change.

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The Sophistry of Ayn Rand. Selfishness. A conversation with Prodos Marinakis

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Ayn Rand’s ‘The Virtue of selfishness’.

It is my opinion that while she is correct about the Ideals of Capitalism and Freedom, Ayn Rand’s philosophy ‘Objectivism’ takes individualism to perverse extremes and in so doing has committed great disservice to the Libertarian cause.
She was a Megalomaniac says the late Nathaniel Branden, and by my reckoning… a Narcissist… and her cult attracts a high percentage of Disciples with similar Sociopathic tendencies.

Unfortunately The reputation of Objectivism has become entangled with that of the Libertarian movement.
Having usurped a position of authority in the Libertarian movement Objectivist teachings and character have caused the Libertarian movement to stink… All the High Ideals of Libertarianism have been sullied because of the delusion that Libertarians are selfish and dont give a toss about the poor, and as long as this is how the Voting Public veiws Libertarianism… There will never be a Libertarian Government elected into office.
Objectivists tend to drive out other types of Libertarians as it takes a very thick skin to bear their Obsessive derision of Religion and glorification of egotistical arrogance.

The accusation that ‘Libertarians are selfish bastards who dont give a shit about the poor’ is a characteristic easily assumed by Socialists and others who have the unpleasant misfortune of talking with an arrogant Randiod Egoist.
Though it is a terrible accusation… this sort of Critisism is often received by an Objectivist as a badge of Honour to be worn with pride! They think concern for others is a vice.
They assume they are imitating their Glorious master who teaches them to be absolutely impervious to the opinions of others.
Central to her Philosophy is also Militant Atheism…’Religion is the root of all evil’ type mentality that is not only overt, but also needs to be appreciated to understand that her Individualism is underpinned (and distorted) because of her Atheism.

Ironically I was prompted to write this blogpost critisising Rands contention that ‘selfishness is a virtue’ after having a Facebook conversation with an Objectivist who shares few (if any) of these common Objectivist traits, and is prepared to Diverge from Rand’s Rabid Anti-theism… Australia’s Colourful champion of Liberty… Prodos Marinakis.
From his comment below you can see for yourself he is willing to be honest and critical about the Objectivist movement.
He’s a very likable Guy.


Prodos Facebook

As Facebook friends I saw one of his posts on ‘The political Compass’ which is a better ‘graph’ on which to plot peoples Political persuasions rather than the ridiculously simplistic Far Left to Far Right Linear graph that is adored by the Mainstream who only seek to maintain the two party system.
These ‘Left and Right’ parties dont like the ‘political compass’ because it outs them as anti-freedom Authoritarians.

Having answered a questionnaire to ascertain his political leanings… the result was plotted on the compass. Below is Prodos result…. and I’ll let our conversation carry on from here… yet for the record I myself am a Bible believing Christian and an Independent Libertarian activist.
*****

…Prodos Marinakis

Political Compass Test — just for fun.
Mine is below. Similar score to Milton Friedman.

More “conservative” than “libertarian”.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Tim Wikiriwhi:
I’m not surprised by your result Prodos given how highly you regard Rand.
I think she distorts peoples views about the virtue of Charity and the vise of selfishness, whereas I highly Regard Jesus Christ and St Paul… and it will be no surprise to you that I usually register as a left leaning Libertarian.

And yet now having completed this test (above) I too have come out a Right leaning Libertarian … making a mockery of my earlier comment… 🙂

In fact We virtually got the same coordinates…[ Both Libertarians rather than Authoritarians …I was slightly to the left of Prodos… yet still on the right side of the spectrum]

Like me you were probably uncomfortable with the Direction of some of the questions and were forced to make some choices without the opportunity to explain your reasoning…

Prodos Marinakis:
Tim, thanks for sharing your Political Compass results & for your comments — both before and after doing the “Political Compass” test.
I’m very glad to see that we got such similar results. You are more surprised by that than I am, since I believe I understand you, better than you understand me.
You wrote, regarding Ayn Rand:
“I think she distorts peoples views about the virtue of Charity and the (vice) of selfishness …”
Well, to talk about Ayn Rand (or Jesus) and not get bogged down, it helps to have specific quotes and to also put them into the proper context. True?
Personally, I consider Charity to be a virtue — provided it’s not tainted by the Kantian notion of altruism (which, despite the modern Church’s reliance on this evil concept, is in fact a post-Christian and anti-Christian invention of Auguste Comte from the 1830’s).
As for “selfishness” as a motive … that term, in Ethics, usually refers to a bad motive.
Calling someone “selfish” usually means that they’re benefiting themselves — even when it’s at the expense of others. And they’re benefiting themselves in a way that’s indifferent to other people.
Yet, there is nothing in Ayn Rand’s fiction or non-fiction that advocates or esteems THAT kind of “selfishness”.
On the contrary, being “selfish” in the Ayn Rand sense — as she explained in The Virtue of Selfishness and encapsulated in her saying: “There are no conflicts of interests among rational men”.
Not to mention the whole model of Free Market Capitalism.
It is true, however, that Objectivism tends to underrate the value and virtue of Charity.
When a writer uses a word (or an expression) it’s important to understand what THE WRITER meant by that word (or expression).
When Jesus says “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s” … we need to study what Jesus meant.
For instance he didn’t mean (as one of my colleagues recently argued) that Jesus is a supporter of taxation and “Big Government”.
(better leave it there for now as I have to cook dinner!)
🙂


Tim Wikiriwhi:
Prodos, I think you have a better grasp than the average Objecitivist because you differ from the average in two aspects.
1. You dont have an innate hatred of religion and so you dont ‘need’ to ‘prove’ it is ‘Evil’… and that gives you a far more objective view when discussing such matters, and (2) this is a corollary (or complimentary) of the fact that you are not afraid to diverge from the Orthodox dogma of the Cult.
Now One of the reasons I accuse Rand of Sophistry is because she trains her disciples to Bastardise the English language by arrogantly abandoning accepted meaning of terms… Re-defining words to mean something other than what they have been historically understood to mean and then proceeds to pretend she can prove the whole world was wrong … *and that she is some sort of Mega-genius* when in fact she is a fraud who has literally re-written the rules.
…often giving terms the very opposite meaning… and most importantly… she has ‘Pre-loaded’ the new meanings so that they will now appear to mathematically add up to the conclusion she wants to achieve… eg ‘that selfishness is now ‘a virtue’…. Objectivists dont even speak the same language… they are disconnected from the historical dialogue and dont even realise they have been swindled… mainly because they share Rands hatred of Christianity and are consumed by their own Egos… and think they too are super geniuses… ‘John Galts’ far above the average savage…. This is not the mentality of ‘Objectivity’… but a type of psychosis that blinds the mind of those who are not aware of what game she is playing.
Now though I know what her nefarious motives were… to discredit Charity… esp religious charity … therefore casting a devious lie to destroy faith in the goodness of Christ and the Christian faith… I can entertain her ‘Revisions’ and understand her silly definitions of ‘Rational selfishness’ vs ‘Irrational selfishness’ …(obviously by her reckoning the historical meaning of selfishness *was this irrational selfishness* and nothing more… not independence… not self-reliance… not self responsibility… and certainly not slavery to the collective!), yet her distortions of Egoism and selfishness, and twisted ideas about altruism as a form of slavery rather than voluntary Individual virtue of charity have contorted the average Objectivists views on Capitalism and Voluntary community Action.
Objectivists are always praising Blatant *Greed*… Rand has crippled their minds so that they are incapable of forming moral arguments that condemn Largess by CEOs at the expense of the well being of the average worker … because the average Objectivist cant understand that simply because a person may have the liberty to act a certain way… that this does not of necessity make it Just, or wise, or of Good character.
Likewise Objectivists tend excuse themselves from supporting worthy voluntary associations and community activities under the pretense that to ‘feel obliged’ to contribute is some sort of ‘psychological slavery’…. yet if any free society is to function it will rely Heavily on exactly these sorts of virtues and voluntarily self imposed moral duty’s.

These are my thoughts on why I suggested that On the Libertarian spectrum I would expect myself to be to the Left of you (Prodos), though I appreciate you are not ‘the average Objectivist’…. yet still your thinking will be ‘coloured’ to some degree by Rands Bents.
I have seen many of your posts that I have enjoyed very much in particular many that could not have been written by the’average Objectivist’ because they are Antireligious-lite… even commending… and that is not a common trait in the Cult.”

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That is where I’ll finish this dialogue with Prodos.

I think think he is is a very interesting, and intelligent Man… a Champion of Liberty… a Man of Reason… who in my opinion avoids sycophantic Rand worship.
Someone a Christian can have a meaningful discussion with… free of petty conceit.

Despite the fact that Long Blog posts are unpopular, I do need to make one further clarification, and that is to say that though Christianity regards Charity as one of the highest virtues, and that People tend to associate this as a mentality common among left leaning political supporters, that it is a grievous error to automatically assume this means Christians ought to be socialists!
The notion that Christ was a socialist has been around for a long time, yet was systematically propagated and grew predominant among Western Christians in the 20th century when Communists infiltrated the churches and began to systematically sway Christians into supporting socialism… despite their Nations Prosperity,Freedom and capitalism being founded upon Christian protestant political reforms and values of Individual Rights, Private property, Hard work, Thrift, Voluntary charity, Honest Free-trade, etc.

This is quite a complex conundrum to untangle, yet when properly understood the confusion and false teaching gives way to definite clarity and broad understanding.
The Key is to understand the dispensational scheme of the scriptures and how things fit in properly with the plan of God.

Reading the Bible there are verses in the Gospels, and early Acts that appear to the unlearned to support the idea that Jesus was anti-wealth and promoted ‘Communism’… yet such an interpretation fails to take into account what Jesus was offering the Jews at the time, and that these instances… such as when he told the Rich young man to sell all his possessions and give the money to the poor… and follow him… are not representative of the future Kingdom Christ had come to establish but was a special time of transition … from the Kingdom of Mammon… into the Messianic Kingdom of God on Earth whereby these injunctions were tests of worthiness to enter his kingdom… repentance for rebellion and sin… and a willingness to forsake the gains achieved under Mammon.. wealth… power… social status… and to enter the kingdom ‘Naked’… fully trusting that Christ would reward them when he had overthrown the Romans and established his rule in Jerusalem.
And here is the real Jam: Christs Kingdom will not be a Communist Utopia!
There will be private property!
The Lazy will not reap the harvests of the Virtuous and hard working, etc!
So the Important thing to appreciate about Christs Message to the Jews at that time and his injunctions to Sell their possessions, and have all things common, and to Turn the other cheek, and to endure persecution unto the end were not instructive of how his Kingdom would function… but tests of Faith and repentance… ie to be found worthy to enter his Kingdom The Jews had to have faith Plus works!
When this is understood the claim that Jesus promoted Socialism collapses… and is exposed as a wicked false doctrine used to deceive Christians for Evil political ends.
Sadly this False doctrine has been very successful with millions of Deceived Christians voting for Big Government Nanny State socialist Tyranny instead of for Liberty and self responsibility guided by personal ethics.
How Ironic that these Christians fail to see they are unwitting supporting Leviathan… enthroning the all powerful State as God… Mammon!

As this Blog post is already too long I will simply ad links to some of my other Blogposts that go into more detail about Christs Kingdom ministry to the Jews… and how that differs from the Christian Age of Grace that we live in today… which is a different dispensation, and has a different gospel..

Read: REDISCOVERING DISPENSATIONAL TRUTH…EXPOSING THE FRAUDS OF ORTHODOXY ONE FALLACY AT A TIME… PART 1. CHRIST’S GOSPEL.

The Ideals of Freedom and Individual rights was born of Protestantism!
Read: PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY HAD A BABY… LIBERTARIANISM.

I will add a link here to show that true Christian Charity is vastly different from the Atheist pseudo-morality of Socialist Tyranny and the forced redistribution of Wealth via welfare…

Read… REAL VOLUNTARY PRIVATE CHARITY VS THE EVILS OF WELFARE AND POLITICAL FORCE RUFF DRAFT.

And finally below is a Link to a speech I delivered in 2006, at the Tenth anniversary of the now disbanded New Zealand Libertarian party… ‘The Libertarianz’ in which I tried to expound why I thought Rabid Objectivism needed to take a back seat to a more Humane and tolerant activism if the party was to have any hope of success at the polls… as can be seen from the date posted to the blog was in 2012… and I was still very angry about what had happened to the Libertarianz party… I was of the opinion that Objectivism was/ had suffocated the party.
I saw the party as becoming little more than a propaganda machine to further the Atheist Cult of Rand… I had already walked away from it by then.
Fanatical Objectivists have convinced themselves that by coining the phrase ‘Egoism’ that they can escape the the accusations of Egotism! another example of Rand’s Sophistry are work!
Egoism… self worship…they say is the highest Individual character trait!

Read: THE FAILURE OF OBJECTIVIST LIBERTARIANISM.

New Zealand still needs a Libertarian Political Choice… yet if this is ever to rise again lessons need to be learned from the Objectivist Dominated Libertarianz party.
If a New Libertarian party is to rise it cannot become a recruitment tool for the Cult of Objectivism… Rands Philosophy cannot be adopted as the last word on Party Policy… and certainly Objectivist Intolerance towards religious views or Charity… cannot be allowed to set the tone of Party Literature and conduct.
A far more Libertarian and enlightened Character and charter needs to be set and presented to the voting public…one in which Libertarianism is expounded that shows Liberty is far more compassionate and Humane than Socialism ever was… and when you Look a a guy like Prodos Marinakis and his moderated style of Objectivism compared to the Rabid Rand worshiping Egoist and Millitant Atheists… the contrast is stark.
Its the difference between an enlightened and Tolerant, and thinking Libertarian… from an indoctrinated Fanatical Zealot of a God hating Cult of selfish arseholes!


This Caricature of Rand and Objectivism may be an exaggeration yet it is not wholly Unjustified as anyone who has had anything to do with the Objectivist movement will tell you… and you can read about just how delusional Rand was in person by one of her closest and most dedicated disciples… Nathaniel Branden… Read “My Years with Ayn Rand”.
When Judgement day comes for Any Rand she will be exposed as a fraud… In Reality she was not Great at all but a Delusional Woman full of the worst Character traits… and her toxic beliefs bring out the worst in those that are deceived by her.

Fortunately there are some New Zealand Objectivists and Libertarians who share the same virtues as Prodos… those that are prepared to think for themselves more and quote Rand less.
Any New party would need to maintain a separation of the Church of Ayn Rand and State… as much as a separation of any other personal ideology.
This is where hope lies and could be the basis for Cooperation between Libertarians of all persuasions.
Getting things all in their correct context and this way Libertarianism will have a much broader appeal… including winning Christians and others out of Socialism and into supporting Freedom where they ought to be. This will only happen when Egoism, and Atheism, and Selfishness are not the defining traits of the Libertarian party… But Enlightened tolerance and adherence to just principles, equality before the Law, and a desire to downsize Government and abolish unjust tyrannical laws and taxes… “He who governs best… governs least”. Thomas Jefferson.
Maybe sometime soon Kiwi Libertarians can have a Reunion… a few Beers… and talk about what could be… what should be in the near future.

Tim Wikiriwhi
Christian Libertarian.

P.S… Read… THE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP IS A VOLUNTARY PRIVATE SOCIETY, NOT A THEOCRATIC POLITICAL MOVEMENT.

And… STANDING UP FOR JUSTICE MORE IMPORTANT THAN PERSONAL AMBITIONS

More from Tim…

MATERIALISM RENDERS MAN NOUGHT. MEANING-LESS, VALUE-LESS, RIGHT-LESS

WE ARE NOT ROBOTS AYN RAND. WE ARE MORAL AGENTS.

MONISM: EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY AND THE DEATH OF MORALITY, REASON AND FREEWILL.

SICK PUPPIES.

Atheism, Bigotry and Hate, Break on through to the other side, Demonic Possession, Faith, Heaven, Hedonism, Hell, Hypocrites, Indoctrination, King James Bible, Kingdom of Heaven, Liberate your Mind!, Satan Laughing Spreads His Wings, Uncategorized

I think Satan’s existence is a Logical necessity … I Challenge you to Change my mind. (Good God/Evil World part 8)

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The following argument has been in my mind for decades… ever since I was converted from Atheism to Bible believing Christianity.
I am not a trained academic or Logician myself, Yet have attempted to solicit dialogue on my conjectures from several ‘Trained academics’ yet so far have had no response.
Thus I have never received any Rebuttal that might dissuade me from my conclusion… simple Atheist assertions that ‘God does not exist… or Satan does not exist’ are not arguments but groundless (and in my opinion erroneous) claims, and this post will attempt to prove the idea that even if I cant say Satan’s existence today is knowable… that at one point back in history of all reality… his existence was a certainty.

The following is an expanded form of my assertion, just to lay down the framework/ context of my contentions plainly.
That I say Satan’s existence is a Logical necessity is based upon the Title Jesus Christ called Satan… “The Father of Lies”… ie Satan *invented Lies* and deception… or at least he was the first *to actually lie*… and this brings up the principle of non-materialist *Free will*.

Christ calls himself… The Way… *The Truth* and the life and the Bible says that *all things were created by him and for him*, and many Infidels who cannot get past their notions of Determinism therefore argue that ‘if the God exists… then *God himself* is responsible even for Satan’s lies… because God made Satan, yet as I have already said they are unable to accept any notion of any created being having autonomous free-will that may differ from the ultimate will of God himself.

Yet the concept of Free will is fundamental to Christian Morality… It permeates the whole Bible from the very Beginning when God commanded Adam not to eat of the forbidden fruit, and it is what makes us *morally culpable* for our own actions while exonerating God for giving us the Liberty to make choices … for good or ill.

“…And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Gen 2)

The Fallen Angel Satan entered the garden and deceived Eve… Adam then chose to disobey the commandment of God Almighty and ate of the Forbidden fruit… and then tried to blame God for what happened by saying “… And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.” (Gen 3vs 12)

Yet God was not responsible for Adams choice to mistrust and disobey God… even though God did create *the possibility* for Adam to so choose… It was Adam who was the free will moral Agent who made the choice and that is why Adam was morally culpable… and God without blame.
God is completely within his right to so order his creations of both the Angels and Humanity with the *potential to sin against him*… Not making us *mere robots*… but True *Children* whose love and ongoing obedience to his Divine rule is not something imposed upon us by our nature… but something *real* and special… and moral… none the less this requires having so ordered things that *the potential to rebel against God* was an inescapable necessity to the dynamic of being able to freely submit to his Sovereignty.

So Like the temptation of Mt Everest in the distance calling vain Men to their doom… trying and Conquer its peak… so to Did God create *the potential for Evil*… for Rebellion… yet that was only as a counterpoise for Freewill love and submission.. not because he *wanted* anyone to rebel… yet still to have *Loving Children* rather than Robots… God Deemed this risk to be worth it… and their would be few honest people who would prefer to be like Ants… wholey driven by their instincts and physical drives, than to be as they are… with Freewill to determine their own lives and activities… Taking credit for their own virtues and successes.

Now I have laid out the groundwork, I can address the main point of which the Title of this post… God Created The Highest Heaven… God Created The Holy Angels and that was When Satan was ‘Lucifer’… the highest Angel in that Order of beings.
I have already explained that God created them with Freewill and gave them the scope to exercise this essential component of their being for which they were created.
An unknown length of ‘time’ passes, and then God Created ‘the Heavens and the Earth'(yet not Mankind)…. and it was sometime after this that Lucifer became jealous of God… and desired to be worshiped… and that is when Evil grew in his ‘heart’ and he chose to Rebel against God.
This is when Satan decided to start telling lies… To corrupt many of his fellow angels into following him instead of God Almighty.
So While the *potential to tell lies* had always existed in counterpoise to being able to tell the truth…. Satan was the first Being to *ever exercise* that potential… he became ‘The father of Lies’.

and it is here that I now posit my Logical challenge… We exist in a reality in which *Telling lies* is a fundamental fact of Human existence… liars exist… Down here on Earth Lies are a currency as often traded in as the truth, which of necessity raises the question… who… in the entire existence of all reality… was the first being to ever tell a lie?
We know that because lies exist today that somewhere someone back in eternity past *must have been the first Lying being*… and it is this Being The Bible calls *Satan*… the Father of Lies.
Satan is therefore a Logical necessity!
And Satan is the Being responsible for Bringing All Evils into the world… even though We as Freewill moral agents are responsible for our own choices to follow Satan’s lies rather than trust in God Almighty.
This is a fundamental Dynamic to our existence!

Change my mind!

Satan Laughing… spreads his wings.

Some Atheists may say… “The father of Lies must have been a human being”… I admit that this ‘Idea’ is worth contemplating… yet when you consider that there is virtual universal consensus on the conjecture that the Human race has not existed for very long… and that even the Earth has not existed for ever… and that Most Atheists also harbour Ideas that we are probably not the only intelligent beings in the universe ( that this is a belief for which they dont have any more *Physical evidence* for such alien beings than I do for Satan seems to escape them… they base their conjectures on no more firm unproven rationale than I do for mine)… yet still does not their own conjectures make the notion that ‘the father of lies’ must have been a Human being uncertain?
Could not *another being* that pre-dates Humanity have told the first lie? (He would then be Satan!)

And then Atheists have an even greater problem… *How lies*… or even *telling the truth*… can even be concepts… if we exist in a Purely Materialistic Reality in which everything is inextricably locked into a chain of physical causation right back to the big bang?

Tim Wikiriwhi.
Christian Libertarian.
Dispensationalist.
King James Bible believer.

More from Tim….

THE GOSPEL OF GOD’S GRACE.

CHRIST’S WORK OF SALVATION ON THE CROSS… THE GREAT EQUALISER.

THE OBJECTIVE REALITY OF HELL. SUBJECTIVE WHIM VS BELIEF IN HEINOUS THINGS: A DIALOGUE.

WHEN THE ACCUSER COMES CALLING…TRUST IN THE LORD’S GOOD CHARACTER…TRUST IN HIS WORD. (GOOD GOD/EVIL WORLD PART 7)

The Rock of Divine Revelation.

Death of an Atheist. Follow the evidence.

THEN COMETH SATAN…. “YEA HATH GOD SAID…?” AND IT CAME TO PASS…. THE BIBLE IS TRUSTWORTHY AND CARRIES THE AUTHORITY OF GOD ALMIGHTY. BELIEVE IT! DON’T LET EDUCATED FOOLS LEAD YOU TO DESTRUCTION.

GOOD FRIDAY 16: WHEN FRIENDS WHO ONCE WERE FUN AND COOL BECOME ANNOYING NAGGING CHRISTIANS!

Life and Death. Hope and Happiness. A Tribute to Rev John Steele Clark.

How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? (part1) Atheist Nihilism.

How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? (part 2) The Thirst for Blood.

Horror stories. How can a Good God exist when there is so much Evil in the world? (Part 3)

How can a Good God exist when there is so much Evil in the world? (Part 4) Interlude.

Seether: Know Thyself. How can a Good God exist when there is so much evil in the world? Part 5.

‘Good Atheists’ and the seriousness of sin. Good God/Evil world. 6

Hell is for the Self Righteous, Heaven is for Sinners.

The Gospel of God’s Grace.

The hope which is In Christ. Terrible grief shall be turned into great joy!

Car Crash.

We are not Robots Ayn Rand. We are Moral Agents.

Monism: Evolutionary Psychology and the Death of Morality, Reason and Freewill.

The Rusty Cage: Scientism.

Defunct / Archaic Western Dogma blindly insists : ‘Whatever does not fit the Naturalistic Materialist Paradigm is Illusory’. Entity Attacks

The Lies of Atheist Pseudo Science.

Pasteur’s Law, Creation Science vs Nose Bone Atheism.

Biomimicry… Plagiarizing God’s designs.

Sick Puppies.

Thorns in the Flesh.

Rapturous Amazement! The Advance of Science Converts The High Priest of Atheism to Deism. A Flew.

The Walls are closing in on Atheism… not Theism.

Faith, Science, and Reason. The Pomposity of Atheism.

Materialism renders Man Nought. Meaning-less, Value-less, Right-less
Dispensational Truth. 2Timothy2vs15, Ephesians 3vs1-9

Willful Ignorance and the Limits of human reason (without Divine Revelation.)